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Originally Posted by curdog4570
I make a good many of the campfire get-togethers, and have hunted with several members. I've never seen any of you heel-biters there.

I suspect I won't. You won't fit in with MEN.


I've declined several invitations because I knew you'd be there. So my reason for not attending had nothing manliness.


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your flippant remarks which you so adeptly sling
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GUYS! It's Christmas Eve!

You've been slinging feces at each other for over a 100 pages to date.
How about stopping the bickering for the night and go drink some nog and find a family member and give them a big hug!....

... And don't forget that your heart is pumping blood and your lungs are still sucking air!


Merry Christmas, and GFY's.


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Originally Posted by curdog4570


The "us against them mentality" on the part of LEO's can not be displayed more clearly than around this virtual campfire by the cops posting here.


Laffin'.......yeah, clearly just cops on display in that regard.

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I can't speak for others but I've had a cop that I considered myself on congenial terms with make two disparaging remarks against me due to the Yantis homicide.


I'm assuming you may be talking about me and although I only recall making one disparaging remark toward you, I won't contest the fact...I get carried away sometimes.

My bag'o'dicks remark was on the thread about Yantis, but it certainly wasn't "due to the Yantis homicide". It was made because I fundamentally disagree with the notion that murdering the two cops based on newspaper articles is OK.

I personally take offense to that notion as a matter of fact because ignorant actions like that have resulted in the children of cops spending this Christmas without a dad. And macho statements like what Gene made only encourage more of that nonsense. I don't want to die any time soon, but if I do I want it to be in a hail of gunfire with badguys, not being ambushed by some coward on drive-by-media-fueled crusade like Gene advocated.

So when you say that Gene didn't threaten anyone, you're full of it. He advocated the murder of two people based on newspaper articles. Newspaper articles have also told us what a good kid Treyvon was, that global warming is going to kill us all and that the Obama administration isn't responsible for Benghazi. So pardon my skepticism.

Once upon a time newspaper articles told everyone in my community what a terrible person I was. They told everyone exactly what I did, but they never told why. And the why was important. The why, and knowing all of the evidence that the "news" didn't bother to report, is why it took a jury just a few minutes to rule in my favor.

And I had crazy people in my community posting the same nonsense that crazy Gene posted about these guys. They actively encouraged my murder based on the story that the news told, which wasn't even half of the truth of what happened.

Gene didn't directly threaten anyone to their face, but he did advocate their murder based on his hypothesis about their guilt. And that's a terrible thing to do, no matter how you slice it.


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I haven't made any disparaging remarks against cops


No disparaging remarks to anyone? Oh really?


I haven't made any disparaging remarks against cops or men. I said nothing about dickweasling pissants.

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Originally Posted by SBTCO
GUYS! It's Christmas Eve!

You've been slinging feces at each other for over a 100 pages to date.
How about stopping the bickering for the night and go drink some nog and find a family member and give them a big hug!....

... And don't forget that your heart is pumping blood and your lungs are still sucking air!


Merry Christmas, and GFY's.


I agree. We can all fight again on Saturday. grin

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Originally Posted by SBTCO
GUYS! It's Christmas Eve!

You've been slinging feces at each other for over a 100 pages to date.
How about stopping the bickering for the night and go drink some nog and find a family member and give them a big hug!....

... And don't forget that your heart is pumping blood and your lungs are still sucking air!


Merry Christmas, and GFY's.


I agree. We can all fight again on Saturday. grin



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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux


I'm assuming you may be talking about me and although I only recall making one disparaging remark toward you, I won't contest the fact...I get carried away sometimes.


Gene didn't directly threaten anyone to their face,


I took the liberty of heavily editing your post into what I considered the pertinent facts to what I myself posted. I will go back and re-read your post because I found it interesting, and try to digest it better.

I was taken aback when you lit into me and implied I was nuts and post a lot of tinfoil horse [bleep] all the time on a thread related to this thread on the Handguns forum close to when this thread started.

I personally have not speculated much at all on this thread. I will say that I don't think it looks good for the coppers as far as them being clean. I have no idea how it will play out in the courts. Gerry Spence is old and not Superman, but I would want him on my side in a court battle.

The gist here is I respectfully disagree.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I was nuts and post a lot of tinfoil horse [bleep] all the time


I took the liberty of heavily editing your post into what I considered the pertinent facts.

The gist here is I respectfully agree.

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Originally Posted by curdog4570
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Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by curdog4570


The "us against them mentality" on the part of LEO's can not be displayed more clearly than around this virtual campfire by the cops posting here.


Laffin'.......yeah, clearly just cops on display in that regard.

George



It's funny George, the only one I see here that projects the "us against them" mentality is Curdog


I'm not surprised that neither of you can look at the BIG picture regarding these bad cop threads. It is obvious to anyone who looks at it objectively:

There exist on this forum a sort of "Cyberspace camaraderie" evolving from our shared interests in hunting and shooting. It is enhanced by our sharing of experiences and opinions.

There is one dynamic that sets itself apart from the usual flareups and disagreements. It's the way some of you cops band together and insult fellow members whom you "know" a lot better than you "know" some cop in a far away place.

And you are PROUD of doing that. At least the ones I know in real life are PROUD of their bond with other cops, no matter the disparity in their actual jobs.

I just returned from a Christmas Eve celebration at Peggy's sister's house. One of the guests whom I had not met before is a retired Federal LEO. He told me that the main reason he and Dan - Peggy's BIL and retired Tx DPS Trooper - were such good friends is that they both were cops. There was also a N.M. State Trooper there, Peggy's Nephew, but nothing was mentioned about him being considered "close".

This inflated sense of importance is not found in other occupations. Professions... yes... but not in occupations. A good welder, for instance, will be proud of his abilities, but doesn't feel compelled to defend other welders who are accused of shoddy work.

I can post about how I hate democrats for what they represent and get a trainload of attaboys, many of them from cop/members.

Thug cops are a greater threat to me personally, and all the other members for that matter, than democrats are, but when I opine about them, I get a bunch of little yapping lap dogs posting insults, veiled threats and outright lies, all on this one thread.

I make a good many of the campfire get-togethers, and have hunted with several members. I've never seen any of you heel-biters there.

I suspect I won't. You won't fit in with MEN.


Just a bit arrogant and pompous, ehh? And Texans wonder why we're given hell...grin...


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Texans have a bad name? WTF? Must have missed the memo.

Any Texans with bad names didn't catch it from curdog. I heard Texans could handle their own stuff.

Merry Christmas to all of you, even Texans.


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Says the person from Cali. Classic....grin...


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
I haven't made any disparaging remarks against cops


No disparaging remarks to anyone? Oh really?


I haven't made any disparaging remarks against cops or men. I said nothing about dickweasling pissants.


There you go again and proved my point

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I've declined several invitations because I knew you'd be there. So my reason for not attending had nothing manliness.


It seems a poor reason to decline an invitation to a Campfire gathering. I have nothing against you, but I am glad that Gene came and you did not. I have had several long and good talks with Gene and even stood side by side with Him, while holding one end of a tarp during a tornado. It was covering us and protecting against flying debris, as much as rain. I would wish for no better by My side. I do figure that there was room for both. miles


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Thanks for the kind words, Miles, and Merry Christmas to ALL.


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Merry Christmas everyone!


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I've declined several invitations because I knew you'd be there. So my reason for not attending had nothing manliness.


It seems a poor reason to decline an invitation to a Campfire gathering. I have nothing against you, but I am glad that Gene came and you did not. I have had several long and good talks with Gene and even stood side by side with Him, while holding one end of a tarp during a tornado. It was covering us and protecting against flying debris, as much as rain. I would wish for no better by My side. I do figure that there was room for both. miles
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I've declined several invitations because I knew you'd be there. So my reason for not attending had nothing manliness.


It seems a poor reason to decline an invitation to a Campfire gathering.


Why? I'm not going to go and pretend that I don't want to push him into the campfire. I'm not going to go and spend the weekend avoiding him. And I'm not going to go and end up in an argument and ruin everyone's good time.

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I am glad that Gene came and you did not.


Me too.

You're welcome.


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Originally Posted by Bluedreaux
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Originally Posted by NH K9
Originally Posted by curdog4570


The "us against them mentality" on the part of LEO's can not be displayed more clearly than around this virtual campfire by the cops posting here.


Laffin'.......yeah, clearly just cops on display in that regard.

George
I can't speak for others but I've had a cop that I considered myself on congenial terms with make two disparaging remarks against me due to the Yantis homicide.


I'm assuming you may be talking about me and although I only recall making one disparaging remark toward you, I won't contest the fact...I get carried away sometimes.

My bag'o'dicks remark was on the thread about Yantis, but it certainly wasn't "due to the Yantis homicide". It was made because I fundamentally disagree with the notion that murdering the two cops based on newspaper articles is OK.

I personally take offense to that notion as a matter of fact because ignorant actions like that have resulted in the children of cops spending this Christmas without a dad. And macho statements like what Gene made only encourage more of that nonsense. I don't want to die any time soon, but if I do I want it to be in a hail of gunfire with badguys, not being ambushed by some coward on drive-by-media-fueled crusade like Gene advocated.

So when you say that Gene didn't threaten anyone, you're full of it. He advocated the murder of two people based on newspaper articles. Newspaper articles have also told us what a good kid Treyvon was, that global warming is going to kill us all and that the Obama administration isn't responsible for Benghazi. So pardon my skepticism.

Once upon a time newspaper articles told everyone in my community what a terrible person I was. They told everyone exactly what I did, but they never told why. And the why was important. The why, and knowing all of the evidence that the "news" didn't bother to report, is why it took a jury just a few minutes to rule in my favor.

And I had crazy people in my community posting the same nonsense that crazy Gene posted about these guys. They actively encouraged my murder based on the story that the news told, which wasn't even half of the truth of what happened.

Gene didn't directly threaten anyone to their face, but he did advocate their murder based on his hypothesis about their guilt. And that's a terrible thing to do, no matter how you slice it.


Spot on! No way to establish guilt or innocence simply by reading media accounts.




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Spot on! No way to establish guilt or innocence simply by reading media accounts.


I can agree some of the news media putting a spin on things but the live interviews from the victims is as close as you can get to the real real on the facts.They can't stray far from there sworn statements.

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