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No such beast. Everyone has their own ideas.
I"ll never have a 17hmr, etc... no use for them.
If I can't do it with a 22lr I resort to larger stuff than just a tiny jump. Just me.
WSM, maybe the best of the bunch, short fat like accurate PPC cases, but I"ve never found the need to own one. Would be 7wsm if I felt the need.
In fact in the last 20 years, I can't think of anything new at all that I've had a need for. I've done and bought new guns, but no new calibers.
Well actually now that we talk.. I did get a 6WOA, thats probably as new as it gets that I can think of. Maybe the 50 beowulf.
But there in is the hitch, we don't all have the same requirements, so why would anyone agree as to whats best.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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I like my 480 and 204 Rugers a lot.
And I'll add the 450 Bushmaster to the list..........
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17 Hornet gets my vote, however some will argue it's been around much longer than 20 years as a wildcat.
Has more appeal than the HMR to me because you can roll your own ammo.
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If .22 Mag is in decline it's because there's no ammo around!
Decent amount of .17 HMR around and scads of .17 WSM (but no guns locally).
When Remington standardized the .260 18 years ago, it became the best descendant of the .308; but got soft spot for 6.8 SPC & .300 BO/Whisper. All killer Dillers.
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Everyone is going to have an opinion. I don't think there's a winner. I judge cartridges differently than most. They are works of art. For me to think of it as good, or worthy of use, it has to be visually appealing. There are so many cartridges floating around these days - both old and new - that nothing made since 1990 has caught my eye. I did own a 17 HMR, but it didn't do anything for me. It does something for you though, and that's good. I like a nice shape. A hard, yet pleasing form. A sultry shoulder, with a suggestive bullet profile that you know will work, just by looking at it. Admittedly, I'm partial to rimmed cartridges. They have lines that appeal to me. These are the cartridges and bullets I like. Nothing made in the last twenty years tickles my fancy. That doesn't mean I'm stuck in the past. It just means no company or individual has excited my neural pathways. I hope they keep trying.
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The 338 Federal deserves some consideration here. It duplicates the 30-06 ballistics while burning about 15% less powder. That's pretty important during the powder shortages we have been seeing the past few years. It seems that none of the new cartridges do anything that wasn't already being done, but they do give us a reason to buy new toys!
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500 S&W ,475 Linebaugh .great in Revolvers or Leveractions.The ultimate big bear stoppers,moose slappers biggest baddest mofos commercially made.
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In the last 20 years, it would seem to me the 300WSM has had the most influence.
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The AR15 is the biggest thing in the last 20 years.
The dramatic growth and development of Eugene Stoner's brainchild is hands down the winner
Honorable mention to the 17 HMR
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Any vote I would lodge has already been voted. I like the .17HMR, .204R, 6.8SPC, .260R and .375R. For its intended purpose, 6.5CRM seems to be pretty awesome, too. Second the Hornady/Ruger props.
I want to like the 17WSM, but there are two reasons I find it difficult to do so. It's too long to work in existing rimfire magnum actions, at least that's what I've been told by the manufacturers I've asked. So you're kinda stuck with either a Savage or an advanced custom project if you want to try it, until some other manufacturer gets behind it. If CZ did, I'd buy one for sure.
The other reason is that they don't make it in a .20 or .22 cal. I imagine a 32-40 gr varmint bullet in .224WSM would be a pretty sweet package. Wouldn't make the 3kfps claim of the .17, but it should be more efficient at generating ft-lb at the muzzle (yeah, yeah, that's not all that matters, blah blah blah) and might even have a bigger advantage over .22WMR than the .17 has over the HMR. If it could deliver nearly the same velocities and trajectories as the HMR with double the projectile mass, that would be worth something, and would probably be more interesting to me than a .17 going just a little faster. With the greater expansion ratio of the larger bore, you'd probably get 98% of all the velocity you'll ever get by the end of a 16" barrel, making for some really handy little packages.
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Everyone is going to have an opinion. I don't think there's a winner. That may be true ?.?.?., but the ones you list are loser's....for the most part. Sorry
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Isn't the 260 older than 20 years? It appeared in 1997 I believe along with the 7mm STW, who would have thought at the time the 260 would be doing better than the big STW 18 years later? I got in very quickly when it was announced, I had decided to get a 7mm-08 and put in an order for one but within a couple of days found out about the new 260 Rem and changed the order. Have not been disappointed even a little bit with it. Really like to good old 6.5x55 as well.......
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Is the .40 s&w under 20 years old? It has developed into a major player in its relative short existence.
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Damn, can't believe no one has mentioned the obvious choice, the .30 TC!
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Everyone is going to have an opinion. I don't think there's a winner. That may be true ?.?.?., but the ones you list are loser's....for the most part. Sorry No, none of them are losers. They just don't appeal to you. Sorry
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The 338 Federal deserves some consideration here. It duplicates the 30-06 ballistics It'll shoot the same bullet weights to the same speed at the muzzle. But with some of the 30 caliber bullets with BC's in the high .6's vs low .4's in the 33 calibers it means the 30-06 is about 100 fps faster at 100 yards. And the gap grows as range increases. Even a 308 shooting the same bullet weights 200 fps slower than 338 Fed will match it at 200 yards and beat it at longer ranges.
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30 Remington AR (already dead) as it turns a AR15 platform into a 300 Savage. It's a terrible shame that Remington pulled a Remington on this round.
The .458 SOCOM would def get honorable mention, as it offers a ton of power and some truly powerful subsonic options...it's a 45-70 in a AR Carbine. Before you ask, the answer is "because you can"
I like my .480 Ruger and think it's a impressive round. It's a 44 Mag and a half, in much the same way a .375 is a 30-06 and a half. LIke the '06 and .375 it does it with no fuss.
I haven't picked up a .204 yet, I think it's a noteworthy FACTORY round, but I probably will before spring.
The 17HMR, even the HM2, are benchmark cartridges from my perspective.
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The 17 HMR stands out for me as well. The 6.5 CM intrigues me, but doesn't really fill any voids. The other one that jumps out for me is the 480 Ruger.
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I liked Steve's post.
I also think old cartridges are more likeable and the .303 is still hard to beat as a big game cartridge.
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