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Fuggin rollin here!

Thanks.

TFF!!!!!

I guess 99.9% of the hunting public missed that gem of logic!!!!

I have a personal hang up which I am fond of. I despise small bore rifles, especially cleaning them. Apart from rimfire, my smallest personal rifle is a .25/06 which I like, though will move up to possibly 7mm when the barrel changes.

It would be simply abhorent for me to play with a sub .224 caliber as even those are repulsive to me.

There is a big difference between reviewing a provided rifle and owning one yourself.

But.....and there is always a "but", the thread asks for our opinion and I gave it.
John

The 475 has been with us for 30 years.

I don't know if they are the best and they have already been mentioned but some that I can think about that appear to have so staying power so far are the .260 Rem, .300WSM and .375 Ruger. That they are my three main cartridges is just an un-bias coincidence.

I'll cast my vote for the 270 Win. All though pretty gay, I'm sure it was invented by Ingwe about 1996.

I believe the sales numbers will show that the 300WSM has been the best of all the "short magnums" and also the best cartridge developed in the last 20 years.

That is one seriously sexy line-up Steve. Could not agree more with you (but I would add a few to the list).

Ken Waters was ahead of the curve, he called it a 263Express, ca. 1962 so more than 20 years old..
A dandy none the less, I have two.

My vote goes to 6.5Creedmoor.

Very interesting opinions thank you. I think the calibers that intrigue me the most are the 204, 500 s&w 460 s&w especially if marlin chambered them. The 50 Beowulf hasn't been mentioned but I would love to play with it.

My vote too. It provides near 300 Win Mag ballistics in a short action. That's pretty slick. It's a tribute to the 30-06 that it took 100 years to come up with a cartridge that improves on it.

I'm partial to the 338 Fed. Works fantastic for what I typically do, which is deer, elk, hogs and African plains game out to 400yds, maybe 500 max.

The 6.5 CM intrigues me though.

In relation to the .17 HMR, a bloke in Australia named Arthur Langsford came out with a line of .17 rimfires in about the early 1970s. At least one, the .17 Tini-Mite, was available commercially from his shop. The .17 Tini-Mite used a .22 shot case (a bit longer than .22 LR) necked down to .17, and a 20 gn bullet was loaded to 3000 fps. There was also a .17 Vixen, on a .22 Mag case, and a .17 Minor Mite on the .22 LR case.

Back in the 70s .17-calibres were popular here, because the price of fox skins for the fur trade was so high - as long as they didn't have big holes in them. Blokes were going out spotlighting and making a fortune at it.

Unfortunately Langsford apparently had difficulties getting a reliable supply of primed cases, and couldn't get the momentum going on this one. As I think JB said earlier in this thread, you need to be able to hit the market with good supply, well distributed, of both rifles and ammo, to give something like this a good chance of lasting success.

Yup. Hardly anything in the way of CF cartridges is really "new" in the last 20 years. Just because something has reached a current degree of commercial recognition does not make it "new".

It took exactly 7 years to beat the 30/06 in a belt less case; not 100 years. They called it the 30 Newton which gave a 172 gr bullet 3000 fps. Even older than the 300 H&H IIRC.It was loaded commercially by Western cartridge company.

The 300 WSM is nothing more than the old Wade short magnums originally developed by a California gunsmith in the 1950's. They were made by blowing out,and necking down a 348 Winchester case,and cutting in an extractor groove.

The 375 Ruger is nothing more than the 30 Newton necked up with minor modifications;much like the old 35 Newton.I am pretty sure such numbers as the 7mm LRM are just a 375 Ruger aka 30 Newton necked to 7mm.

People were blowing out and necking down 404 Jeffrey cases a long time before anyone even heard of the RUM line of cartridges.

Even the 6.5 Creed is just a 250 Savage case, improved and necked to 6.5.

What we are all shooting are simply old ideas dredged out of the ashes and recycled with a modern twist. We had all the cases we needed by maybe 1970.

The real improvements have been in propellants and bullets. The cartridges are mostly window dressing based on minor refinements..

What Bob said. I don't understand the Creed hype but I have two 6.5x55. The only "newer" rounds I've bought are the 338 Federal and the 6.8 SPC. I really like both rounds but the 338 Federal doesn't do anything a dozen other rounds won't do. The 6.8 SPC & the 6.5 Grendel seem to maximize performance out of an AR when it comes to bullet weight, velocity & ballistic coefficient. The Blackout is not a new round, it's the 300 Whisper marketed beautifully by Remington. They are interchangeable and the Whisper has been around for 20+ years.

That about sums it up.

Bob, cutting to the chase and waxing eloquent as usual...

DF

How'd that work out?

Still not short action.

See comment above about the Wade short magnums. The stuff existed in the 50's,so "no" it didn't take 100 years.

I am one who does not consider the WSM's to be a big deal (having owned and sold them all) and don't consider the WSMs anything special.

But that's just me.

Fixed it for ya.


Jerry

12 gauge saboted slugs for firing in rifled shotgun barrels.