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Good info- thanks.

If only someone made a bonded, high-BC bullet that expanded down to, say, 1300 fps but wouldn't blow up at high impact speeds or on heavy bone......... hey waitaminute.....

Actually that's the knock on the LRAB that I've seen in my poking around the internet: the front part of the bullet is quite explosive and the wound channel from the remaining back part is underwhelming. BUT, people say the weirdest [bleep] about bullets- stuff that's contrary to my direct experience. So I'm not writing them off.

Had a nice buck out under the oaks in my pasture today. I was like, hmmm! A volunteer for a bullet test!

Pretty easy for me to give the ABLRs a wide berth and stick to smashing sschit with Bergers and Scenars....

Tanner

I know far s fact that at one time he used equipment that he built with acoustical targets and shot the BC's over a 600 yard spacing

I shot the 168 LRAB at distance today. It was pretty blustery. Started at 565 yards; and found that the drop corresponded to my Ballistic software well enough to hit a 12" plate. I was alone so most of the time I don't know where I was hitting it. Saw a few. Anyway, I just grabbed the bullet out of the library, set MV to 2925 fps (estimate), and whap. Speaks well to the BC being close to advertised, which jibes with Mr. Litz' data on this particular LRAB.

The bullet was shooting accurately, and handling the wind like a .650-class BC should, so it got boring, so I moved back to 775 yards. This is where the gusty winds started to kick my butt. Still, I could tell at least the drop dope still looked good.

I'm headed up Sunday morning with a 'Fire buddy so I'll have a spotter and should be able to update this with more and better info then. For a first trip up, in those conditions, in new brass, I thought the bullet did great. Certainly, it seemed like the 162 Amax had nothing on it- shot some of those today too. The rifle shoots both to sub-.5 MOA at 100 yds "all day long" "if I do my part" so it wasn't a surprise to see the LRAB's appear to do as well as the 162's out there a ways. But you never know.

They were accurate out of my M70 270. Hmmmm...Blued, Winchester, 270, Leupie 3X9, Nosler. I did end up ditching them for 130 Partitions to add insult to injury. I have it all stashed away for Primitive Weapons season or when I become a grumpy old man.

Jeff,

The thing is- if velocity was an estimate rather than a measured number, how do you know if the BC was accurate, or if you simply underestimated velocity?

I don't. I should be able to find that out Sunday when I have a spotter and less wind. Even then, of course, subtle atmospherics could be in play.

But playing with my software just now, at 550 yards varying the speed by 50 fps, or the BC by .025, only changes the drop by ~1/4 MOA. So heck... I'll up you one, Jordan, and dope slap myself in the process: even if I'd known the velocity to a T, it'd be wrong to pronounce that the BC seemed to match up. It could be off by .025 and that only results in ~ an inch diff at 550. A guy would have to have his [bleep] wired pretty tight to CONCLUSIVELY make pronouncements about BC at such a relatively short range. D'oh.

As a thunk.... I wonder what the "noise level" is anyway for your average lug nut shooting at LR? If you assumed a 1/2 MOA rifle/shooter platform, and at least a little variation due to ES, and a little more due to subtle up and downdrafts.... chrono +/- error, which is a thing for sure... I wonder what a reasonable degree of certainty even IS for this in field conditions. Do you know, Jordan?

For myself, hits trump all. If the gong is a'whappin' I'm a happy man, and I don't wander too far off into the theoretical tall grass, I'm too busy stuffing another shell into the chamber. But I'll be sure to be much more careful about even mentioning a bullet matching up to charts in the future.

So I'll say THIS, as I chew on my Humble Pie of the day: the BC matched up "good enough" to put hits on a 12" gong at 565 and 775 yards with what I believe to be a solid estimated velocity of 2925 fps, based on lots of chrono'ing 162's with this powder.

And I'll try to tighten things up tomorrow, with a spotter.

For those that don't know, Jeff is an Obama supporting POFS.




Travis

People still support Obama?

Liberals like deflave I'm sure do, secretly anyway

Tells us he's wrong, Jeff_O.

Here is some helpful info for Obama voters:

SMFD.




Travis

I thought something was strange when someone had good manners on LONG RANGE HUNTING.
He lacked the bragging, belittling, and impertinence I expect.
Must be compensating for something. I thought he might be a muslim infiltrator or an FBI agent selling child porn.

But an Obama supporter. That's nothing. Where I live, they are 70% liberal.

Where I hunt they are 6% liberal. I would move, if it weren't for my wife and grandkids.

Saturday night. Gotta go eat cheese and drink wine with some libs. If they tell me how much they want Syrian refugees to immigrate, I will fart loudly.

It won't work, they like it.

2008: HELL YES I did and I stand by it

2012: HELL NO I did not and I stand by THAT

2015: IDGAF about federal politics, will vote my beliefs, which neither party represents, and I do NOT talk politics on the internet.

If any of you for some bizarre reason ever want to hear my thoughts on the utter mess we have made of this country I will do so in person over coffee or a beer. But be forewarned. If you are "liberal", I'm gonna piss you off. If you are "conservative", I'm gonna piss you off. Dumbphuckitude abounds in both camps and I'm done pretending otherwise.

So there.

I won't say another word on the subject. And Travis, you can kiss my HWA. Bringing politics into a long-range hunting forum? Punk move, kiddo.

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I shot the 168 again today at the same distances. I came away confused. I'm going up again tomorrow with a spotter. I'll report what I see.

Fugk you, you liberal POFS.



Travis

You accusing someone of being a Liberal is like Hitler calling out Stalin for being violent.

A guy from Canaduh talkin' politics.

What do you do for an encore? Talk about acquiring pussy?

Too fugkin' funny.



Travis

Not hard to see why people are leaving this site. Politics should be left up in the loony forum above.

I could give a fugk who leaves or stays on this site.

An anti-gun POS is an anti-gun POS.



Travis