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.625 / 162 / 3,000 @ 66 is about the cream of the crop. But everyone knows that and I just wanted to use the new BC / weight / velocity lingo.


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Originally Posted by 16bore
I just wanted to use the new BC / weight / velocity lingo.



Kinda my Money Ball approach to looking at it.... similar to your "average ballistics" above (which I copied and saved for future reference). Maybe we should call it the Money Shot stat.....

I look at .400/100/2750 as a big game kinda minimum... the Mendoza Line so to speak.

.625/160/3k aka 7 Rem Mag.... is still the easiest way to lead the league in strikeouts, wins, and ERA..... without throwing your arm out.

Somewhere in the .500/140/2850 range is a great place to be, it's fairly easy to emulate across a broad base of cartridges (excepting bullet weight), provided a sound bullet it'll work on pretty much anything I can draw a tag for, and it's attainable in lighter recoiling cartridges that most folks can shoot well.


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The 7RM and 260 .527 / 123 / 2,900 are my favorites so far. I'm pretty much sold on the idea that there is one solid load/bullet combo for a chambering. One combo that pretty much hits the best balance of everything.

That's also why the "this cartridge vs that cartridge" debates are pretty damn stupid.

Seems the cartridge world average is .450 / 143 / 2950.

Pick your poison.....

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.450/145/2950...... sounds pretty much like a .270/.280/'06 kinda thing.... imagine that....

.525/123/2900(ish) is what we shoot more than everything else combined, mostly in Amax form.


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Funny how that happens......

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Originally Posted by Stevil
Allen i used a PTG Ti Firing pin, bolt scalloping got me and Bolt fluting only saved around 40gr, Mag follower is made from Acetal, saved 8grs. Bottom metal is standard rem alloy.

On my Model 7, the PTG Alloy firing Pin assembly wiped 2oz off the rifle straight away.

The bolt fluting/scolloping lost another 1oz.

The Model 7 action is a couple of oz less than a standard R700 Short Action.


Originally Posted by Stevil
Talley Lighweight rings and Loopy 2-7 weigh 10oz together

The rest is the barrel profile and the Wildcat stock.

Cerakote/micro slicking/bedding and stock paint job added 3-4 oz's also.

The Leupold VX2 UL Compact 2-7 weighs 8.5oz and is a very good choice for an ultralight hunting rifle https://www.leupold.com/hunting-sho...ht-riflescopes/vx-2-ultralight-2-7x28mm/

The bedding & painting of the stock may have added 2oz, bringing the total stock weight to 18, maybe 19oz. That is useful amount less than a McMillan Edge. I use a few Wildcat stocks myself, my latest rifle is a 6.5 SAUM (.608/130/3250 with pointed Bergers) with a Swarovski Z5 on top that comes in at 7lb even ready to load and shoot. It is forward balanced and first shot kill accurate out to 600m in my hands.

My experience with building lightweight rifles is that attention to every detail, and every ounce, gets them down quickly.

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