Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Optics Dealer said a better option than Nightforce is Swarovski

So I called the "local" dealer to check if C248 2.5-10 42mm Nightforce was in stock before I drive 180 miles round trip. Anyway he said he thinks they discontinued the MOAR reticle, and he did not have any in stock. But the X5 Swarovski was less industrial looking, and a better scope. I was in the car at the time, so I said I would look them up when I got home. SWFA has the X5 series in stock, something like $3300-3500. No wonder why.......

yeah. Less 'industrial looking' costs........

better in what way ... ....?

Better for the dealer to sell................

Ive yet to meet a guy behind a gun counter who has more than redneck knowledge of optics and firearms.

I'd probably trust them less than the average bum living in a tent down by the bridge.

The MOAR is still made.

The C429 is in stock at Euro Optics. Save the big drive. Call and ask for Jason and have it delivered to your doorstep.

http://www.eurooptic.com/nightforce-nxs-35-15x50-zero-stop-moar-c429.aspx

$3300-3500!

Spend that on a hunting rig - it better say 4x4 on it!

I'll believe it after the match shooters run them through the wringer,and the military gives a huge contract and abuses them a few years. Until then.....

There is no reason that Swaro could not build the same scope or even a slightly superior scope to a Nightforce by just buying a NF and reverse engineering it . If that is a big deal for Swaro then no one should buy any of their products.

Yea...and while they are at it...they should build the fence and have Mexico pay for it.

Are you saying that Swarovski cannot build a tactical scope as good or better then NF?

I thought I was big time for popping out 1800 for the nightforce, double that is crazy. I can't see a scope costing 3500. The gunshop is a high end place, so I guess a lot of their clientele can lay down big money at will.

Yep and Yep. The true power of advertising can never be measured . I don't think it will do anything better then the NF except maybe in the glass department.

They haven't yet.

Neither has anyone else.

have you looked at the new tactical scope they are building? Do you not think that Swaro who can build lightweight hunting scopes with great optics cannot build a 30oz bruiser? They are after the NF market albeit with a price 2 x what a NF is. I am not saying it is better or not I am just saying they can build one, it remains to be seen if people will pay the price

For them to be able to build something and willing to do something is two separate things.....which was oldelkhunters point. Swarovski is capable of building any scope made if they wanted to. It's isn't a cure for cancer it's building scopes.

depends on what he means I guess, better for him or better for you. NF is better for you if you want it to hold zero and track correctly. I second the Eurooptic comment they are easy to deal with and very helpful, just don't call them too often a man can go broke associating with that crew.

The new Swarovskis have a completely new adjustment and erector system, considerabling beefed up over any of their previous scopes. I attended a "test" shoot last May, where around 10 shooters put the new scopes through their paces over several days, shooting out to a mile with rifles chambered for various rounds, including several .300 Winchester and .338 Lapua Magnums. There were no failures and as far as everybody could tell the scopes tracked perfectly, whether when sighting-in on paper or shooting distant gongs. Usually during similar shoots at the same range (I’ve been there three times now) at least one or two scopes bite the dust somewhere along the line. Whether the Swarovskis are as tough as Nightorce of some other scopes remains to be seen, but it was an impressive start.

Anyone ever see a Swarovski test like the scope in this torture test??

https://vimeo.com/114881326

A VX-6 would be in pieces after something like this.