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Originally Posted by Seafire


the groups out of the Ruger American were tighter than Higbean's above...




Well, I didn't have all day and I didn't do MY part....


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Geez, Id take groups like yours with my normal hunting loads....


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One of these days I'm gonna shoot some real groups.


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[quote=ingwe]The reason they have powder supplies in Oregon is because you are the only shooter in the friggin' state...... smile [/quote}]....

......who uses Blue Dot....

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While not abundant, Blue Dot has been showing up pretty regularly lately. A month or so ago more than one website even had 8-pounders for sale, though of course they're gone now. I didn't bother as a local Montana store got in a bunch and I stocked up, partly because I also use it quite a bit in my 10-gauge shotgun, which uses a lot more powder per round than the .223.


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JB,

Got any .223 loads you really like?


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The same loads James Calhoon has had on his website (www.jamescalhoon.com) for years now, which originally appeared in an article for Varmint Hunter Magazine in 1999. He contacted Alliant for suggestions, then published the results. Click on “Informative Articles,” then on “To Bee, or .223 Revisited.”


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Originally Posted by Seafire
[quote=ingwe]The reason they have powder supplies in Oregon is because you are the only shooter in the friggin' state...... smile [/quote}]....

......who uses Blue Dot....

whistle


Happy Thanksgiving to you and the family there Tom!



Same to you John! laugh


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Same to everyone. Dine well, be convival.


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Can I substitute a 50 grain Ballistic Tip for the 50 grain V Max?




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Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Can I substitute a 50 grain Ballistic Tip for the 50 grain V Max?




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Affirmative.


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Poobs, I chronied those Trail Boss loads today just for the heck of it.

7.7gr TB under 50 Z's was 1,800

7gr TB under 75 Amax was 1,450


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Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Seafire


the groups out of the Ruger American were tighter than Higbean's above...




Well, I didn't have all day and I didn't do MY part....


Umm, that was not intended as a slam and a " I can shoot tighter groups than you" kind of thing...

it was just more to emphasize that there were some good results yielded.....

nothing more or less was intended, so my apologies if you took it other wise....

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Originally Posted by Higbean
Poobs, I chronied those Trail Boss loads today just for the heck of it.

7.7gr TB under 50 Z's was 1,800

7gr TB under 75 Amax was 1,450



Thanks for that info...my guess, as I have no chrono, was that the 50 grain loads were going 1900, so I wasn't far off.

Now Im shooting the 50s in front of Seafires 12.5 grains of IMR 4198 and I get the impression that they are a tad faster....


Again no chrono, so Im wallowing in ignorant bliss. grin


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Originally Posted by Seafire
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Originally Posted by Seafire


the groups out of the Ruger American were tighter than Higbean's above...




Well, I didn't have all day and I didn't do MY part....


Umm, that was not intended as a slam and a " I can shoot tighter groups than you" kind of thing...

it was just more to emphasize that there were some good results yielded.....

nothing more or less was intended, so my apologies if you took it other wise....


I know you didn't mean anything by it and was just being my usual smart ass.


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OK...I think Ive just taken this concept to the next level with my new rifle.
I ordered a burris scope with turrets so I could zero with reduced loads, and also sight in with normal loads-just make a note of the settings- and use the gun for everything.

If this works, I'll have to get rid of all my other guns, this dynamic idea will render them all useless! laugh


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Burris??????? Next thing you know you will have a buttout tool and a bubba buddy.


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Tom,

I use a variation on the same concept with my .22 Hornet, which has a 3-9x FFII. When sighted-in 1" high at 100 with its full-power 40-grain load, I found the reduced load with a 43.5 grain cast bullet and Accurate 5744 lands right at the top of the bottom post at 50 yards with the scope set on 6x. The load gets around 1100 fps, and puts 5 inside an inch at 50.


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Originally Posted by 7mmMato
Burris??????? Next thing you know you will have a buttout tool and a bubba buddy.



ouch....


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Tom,

I use a variation on the same concept with my .22 Hornet, which has a 3-9x FFII. When sighted-in 1" high at 100 with its full-power 40-grain load, I found the reduced load with a 43.5 grain cast bullet and Accurate 5744 lands right at the top of the bottom post at 50 yards with the scope set on 6x. The load gets around 1100 fps, and puts 5 inside an inch at 50.



I thought of that, but have shot the rifle enough already to realize theres a windage change in the POI as well, so Ive gotta do the turrets. Your idea works on my model 7 in .223AI with the Burris BP though.... wink


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