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Hey! I've got the stuff to get a moose out of a bad place, but I don't go shoot a moose because the thought of getting one back out just doesn't appeal to me. My cell number only works for deer. It's too old for that moose crap

Hope they get you tuned up, GG.

No need to ask because I am hereby offering to help the next time you make it to Pa. Spending time in the woods with friends is what makes it 'precious' time.

Besides, you never know what might happen. A buddy and I were dragging his buck out (mine was already in the truck) and we about got run over by 2 more bucks haulin ass through the farm field.

Take care,

Dale

My father had it for 20 years before he passed at 89 years of age. A virus from dental work infection almost killed him and was the cause. Most folks don't live to be 89. Pops live a great life. It is what it is. Love to death those that are important.

GG - the cardiologist and some very standard tests will tell a lot - folks tend to lump a lot under the term CHF. The myopathy from virus damage is one thing (and often is very troublesome) but other factors can lead to the tiredness, shortness of breath, etc. Other things in your heart function could be OK but a poorly functioning aortic valve could yield similar symptoms.

After many, many years of hunting alone and with progressive COPD that became more and more limiting, it was getting much worse during deer season a year ago. I passed up good still shots at two different mule deer bucks (BIG racky ones) because I simply knew that alone I could not get one down to and across the canyon bottom and up to a road. Just stood and looked at each, and felt fairly rotten.

A month later went to a cardio guy and told him I must have CHF in addition to the long-term COPD. Immediate tests - no CHF - but one really bad valve. Had a new one put in and that went well but other doc errors in the aftermath caused severe setbacks. Now getting better (slowly) and had a decent hunt last week - alone - but far from the young lion days. All of us are different with these things, but all in all my hope for something better continues.

I KNOW this can be tough, and maybe scary, for you and wish you all of the best - hoping you get some great results.

Dude, you have my number. If you need help getting one out of the woods, or just cutting it up and making it into food, please, please call.

You're likely taking Losartan that's combined with Lasix. It's the Lasix that removes water.

He's likely taking Losartan that's combined with hydrochlorothiazide which a) has a similar (but still different) chemical composition than Lasix - and b) is more commonly combined with Losartan.

It would be safer and less apt to cause confusion to say that Losartan isn't a diuretic, so its probably combined with one UNLESS the doctor is relying on the increased renal perfusion of the dilated blood vessels to promote urinary output.

He should ask his doc, just for knowledge sake...

Yeah, Goalie, I'd like to share a fire with you sometime, buddy. Did you get all your meat processed okay this year?

Thanks for all the encouragement and adivice guys. I will take it to heart. No pun intended. It's just very hard when I'm the one who's usually helping out others. It's very hard to take help, not give it.

Was going to comment, but you beat me. Losartan isnt a diuretic. However, when combined with hydrochlorothiazide the hydrochlorothiazide will cause fluid to be eliminated.

GG, you best check with you MD on what medication you are to increase to twice daily. You also taking Lasix (furosemide) by any chance?
Sound alike drugs, i.e. lasix/losartan often cause mixups. Just a suggestion, but losartan in and of itself is not much of a diuretic. Losartan combined with HCTZ is.

Yeah, we got two deer and it didn't take long. I may hit you up for help if I get a bonus tag filled in the metro though.

Please just stop pretending you are a doctor and/or have a clue about medicine and health issues.

Furosemide is what kept Wifey going for years! Getting the endema under control helps immensely. I suppose the upside to the LVAD is she is off diuretics. But it's her INR count that has to be closely monitored now.

Any time, sir. Going for ML season?

Yeah, I am planning on doing some weekday hunts at a friend from work's place over by Stillwater. It produced a big doe last year, so I am hopeful that this year will pan out as well.

RWE, I intentionally kept my comentary simple, expressing the rough idea rather than being a stickler for the technicalities, because that's how most folks speak. Techno jargen can often needlessly complicate an issue. I'm aware the chemicals aren't identical. The point was made, however, I.e., make sure the instructions were correctly inderstood, because Losartan isn't a diuretic.

This dialogue is reason enough for all of us to consider being organ donors.

doesn't seem like you're on enough meds to handle CHF


this straightened me out in just 4 months from NYIII to back to NY1/2

losartin potassium 2x per day at 50mg each

120mg of furosemide as a diuretic

Coreg 25mg twice daily as a beta blocker will give the heart rest

isosorbide DN 10mg 3x per day

hyrdALAZINE 25mg 3 x per day


this is more attuned regimen for CHF, from my experience