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Gentlemen please help me decide on rebarreling a M70 push feed to either 338-06 or 35 whelen and why? I do reload so that part is not a hinderence.Also which barrel brand would be the general consensus?
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How far will you be shooting? .338 has better bullets for shooting at longer ranges in the wind.
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No more than 200 yards or so mainly to be used in the swamps down here in SC for deer and hogs.
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Either is a lot of gun for southern whitetails and hogs. Are you going with one of these just because of the "cool factor"? If so, I don't blame you. I like the idea of having a rifle in one of those calibers. On the other hand, I'm realizing that I'm not really interested in the recoil and I don't really have a need for anything bigger than one of my 6.8-06's (I wouldn't shoot a .270; everybody knows they're gay) and would probably be better off to just shoot a .243. If I were rebarreling, I would think about something smaller because I would be likely to shoot it more. But one should never let practicality interfere with building a really cool rifle. ;-)
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I prefer the .338-06 for the broader array of bullets that are available, but there are no flies on the Whelen. In the swamps, either would work fine with the bullets that are available.
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Owned a 35 Whelen and could careless about it these days. If I wanted a 30-06 length 35, I would pick a 358 Norma magnum. I would pick a 338-06 over the 35 but would pick a 9.3x62 over ether of them.
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The current M70 may have a sale-able barrel on it now with value. Sell it as it is and buy another rifle chambered the way you want with CRF yet!
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Don't listen to Savage 99, he's not in his right mind most of the time. For your rifle pick either cartridge you want, I have both a d both are fun to play with. I wouldn't change your barrel at all I'd send it off to Reboring by Jes and have the rifle back in around three weeks and be shooting.
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It is definately for cool factor. my other donor m70 is being turned into a 7x57. I have plenty of other calibers to play with but want a medium bore thumper. As far as reboring it I think id rather have a new barrel.
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my last jess rebore the rifle was out of my hands for 6 days.
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If I lived in BC or Alaska I would have a Whelen...hands down. Where you live I would go w/the 338-06 and shoot the 180gr AcuuBond. It'll take care of anything in the lower 48 and that includes the Carolina's. powdr
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my last jess rebore the rifle was out of my hands for 6 days. I knew he was fast, but had no clue he could turn one around that quickly! I haven't heard of one of his rebore jobs that wouldn't shoot with acceptable hunting accuracy either. If I find the right donor I think I'll have him bore a .358 Norma for me.
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The current M70 may have a sale-able barrel on it now with value. Sell it as it is and buy another rifle chambered the way you want with CRF yet!
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Whelen . . .
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Ok lets talk twist rate. Im thinking of running 200-225 grain jacketed bullets and maybe some 180 grn cast in the whelen. Is this going to be to fast or not.
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1:12" on mine. It does fine with 158 jacketed pistol bullets down to 1,200 fps. My tube in a PacNor 5-groove #3 contour @ 22". Have not shot any cast.
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Whelen will give you cheaper opportunities to plink w/pistol bullets. Either will work for most game in the lower 48. 338 does have better heavy bullet selection.
I would seriously consider a rebore. JES did my 30-30 to 356 Win with a 14" twist. It shoots 280gr cast wonderfully. My 358 Norma has a 16" twist and shoots 250JSP into .7". I have some old Barnes 280 and 300 gr bullets, that I plan on loading for the Norma, but don't know if they will stabilize.
Because I have the 338 and 35 bore covered, my next build might be a 9.3.
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Ill be dropping the rifle off at Carolina Prescion Rifles on Monday morning to be turned into a 35 Whelen.
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