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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Clark's life-partner with a new Cooper.....
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Holy crap! Today's posts in this thread made my day.
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Out of context.
I am at 100 yards for 10 to 11 months of the year. Only cause you won't drive an extra 45 minutes up I-90 to Stampede Pass..... there's all kinds of LR shots to be had there. But you won't find a covered concrete bench, coffee pot and snack bar, or a bunch of wankers in a circle jerk over Fred's new Cooper.... all of which seem more desirable to you than field fired empirical dope or reliable scope adjustments. Isn't that a red herring fallacy? What ARE your standards?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
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Clark's life-partner with a new Cooper..... Dogshooter, please leave me out of your publicly displayed homosexual fantasies.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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I like first round hits at... at 1/2 mile via 12x SS.... Of course, that requires actuall shooting.... and use of the wares in question. ![[Linked Image]](http://i352.photobucket.com/albums/r325/dogdownproductions/1F6EDDDD-6E4A-46AA-A9F4-FB545A3A6EFA_zpskkbeftjj.jpg)
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Dogshooter,
I am sure you are proud of you shooting, but the standards I am talking about are for forum decorum.
Before you post, edit your post.
Check that it is helpful and polite.
Edit out any bragging, insulting, logical errors, or extraneous information.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self. -Ernest Hemingway
The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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I like first round hits at... at 1/2 mile via 12x SS.... Of course, that requires actuall shooting.... and use of the wares in question. Dogshooter, I was looking at the 10x and 12x. Leaning toward the 12x now. Have you had a chance to compare the two? GB
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They 10x is as high as I would go. The 12x isn't bad, but comprised in comparison.
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GB.... Once again, I concur with Form. 10x is best on most rigs, and seems a bit brighter side by side. A buddy of mine has a half dozen 12x SS's scattered from T3s to Steyers to AR10s to a 15lb Long Range 7 Rem... and loves them all... to each their own.
I've been running the 3-12 LRHS lately, and it's awesome.... but a guy could have three Super Snipers for the dough.
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the 20% off seems interesting, not sure why I need 15 power where I hunt but I do like the looks of the MilQuad DM thing.
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Clark,
Your shots are under a 100 yards and you're even commenting about adjustments?
? Lol....I had to read it twice myself. I couldn't believe someone who shoots 10-11 months a year at 100 yards is even in a discussion like this. Then again that's how the net goes it seems.
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Kaleb
Lol....I had to read it twice myself. I couldn't believe someone who shoots 10-11 months a year at 100 yards is even in a discussion like this. Then again that's how the net goes it seems. Kaleb, I probably know some things about this topic that you don't. I got a SWFA super sniper scope when Chris Farris his first picked some components from an Asian factory catalogue and imported his own brand. That was a long time after Gale McMillan did that and sold them to the marines. Any email I got from Gale was many computers ago. I told Chris light transmission was terrible. I have not measured it. I am not an optics engineer, but I have worked with them on attack helicopter night vision 15 years ago. I put in a lot of effort to get 120 db of dynamic range without any flicker at the bottom of night mode. I worked direct, contract, consultant, and firm fixed price contract under a statement of work. All the optics calculations were first time for me, and not a conditioned response. That was real work, doing new math. I knew Chris from his ads in SHOTGUN NEWS and his posts on the shooter's forum in the 1990s when the WWW gun forums got started. My father was chief engineer of a military and gun designing fortune 500 company. He mostly subcontracted the fire control [not the trigger like a Rem700 gunsmith would call it, but the aiming system] to Hughes Corp. But he did make an anti backlash split gear in an aiming system. You can't afford that in your scope nor your guitar tuning keys.
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The man who makes no mistakes does not usually make anything.-- Edward John Phelps
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Clark, not sure this is a comment on current SWFA scopes regards the light transmission?
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What does any of that have to do with you saying that mil rad scopes are worthless to you because you shoot at 100 yards?
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Absolutely bewildering...
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1 moa = 1.05" at 100 yards (rounded nearest 1/100th)
1/4 moa = .26" at 100 yards (rounded)
1 mil = 3.6" at 100 yards
1/10 mil equals .36" at 100 yards.
So, zeroing at 100 with 1/4 moa leaves a max mechanical error or 1/8 moa, or .13".
Zeroing at 100 with 1/10 mil leaves a max mechanical error of 1/20 mil, or .18".
That's a difference in precision of .05" at 100 yards, or .5" at 1000 yards.
That's what all the fuss is about? It's such a small difference it is irrelevant for all practical purposes. That small difference is lost in the wind, your pulse, etc.
I'm migrating to mils, because I prefer the system of tenths.
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Some folks just want to share a word or two.
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