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Maybe San Fran should just ban Federal Officers? The gun control we evidently need, is to take all guns from Feds.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-francisco-area-murder.html?intcmp=hpbt2

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The fatal shooting of an Oakland muralist marks the second time in roughly two months that a gun stolen from a federal official allegedly was used in a San Francisco-area murder.

A local CBS TV station reported Tuesday that the gun allegedly used to kill muralist Antonio Ramos on Sept. 29 was stolen 16 days earlier from an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official.

ICE has acknowledged the theft but has neither confirmed nor denied whether that gun was used to kill Ramos, 27, while he was working on a peace mural beneath an overpass.

“A duty weapon belonging to an officer with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s Enforcement and Removal Operations was stolen Sept. 13 in San Francisco from a vehicle being used by the officer,” the agency said in a statement. “The theft was properly reported to local authorities and through official federal channels.”

The agency told FoxNews.com on Wednesday that it has no new information and that the incident remains under investigation.

Ramos was killed about 11 weeks after Kate Steinle, 32, was fatally shot along San Francisco’s Pier 14, allegedly by an illegal immigrant from Mexico.

That gun reportedly was stolen from a Bureau of Land Management ranger’s vehicle while he was on official government travel; the theft was immediately reported to authorities, the bureau said at the time.

Francisco Sanchez, who said he found the weapon wrapped in a T-shirt under a bench, was later charged with murder. The killing sparked nationwide attention because Sanchez had been recently released from jail, where he was being held on a drug charge, despite federal authorities asking that he be detained for deportation proceedings. Sanchez already had been deported several times and had multiple felony convictions, and his release by the San Francisco County Sheriff’s Office reignited the debate about San Francisco and other so-called “sanctuary cities.”

In the Ramos killing, the TV station reports that a law enforcement source made the connection between the stolen gun and Ramos’s death.

Police last week arrested Marquise Holloway, 20, in connection with the killing and with second-degree robbery.

Oakland homicide detective Lt. Roland Holmgren said the incident started when Ramos, 27, was taking a break from painting and snapping pictures of his mural.

Holloway then allegedly walked by and began eyeing Ramos’s camera equipment, which led to an altercation and the fatal shooting.

Holloway is known to hang around the same neighborhood of west Oakland where Ramos was killed and is also believed to be responsible for a string of robberies in the area, Holmgren also said.


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They otto make a law against that


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Be careful about blaming a guy for a crime committed with his stolen gun. Why not blame the actual criminal?


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An Oakland Muralist? I might have used the term "Tagger" but my wife says I lack empathy.

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Originally Posted by lvmiker
An Oakland Muralist? I might have used the term "Tagger" but my wife says I lack empathy.

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gang member marking his territory.


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Originally Posted by lvmiker
An Oakland Muralist? I might have used the term "Tagger" but my wife says I lack empathy.

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You're not alone, I would have used the same terminology but then again I'm told by the women in the house that I can be "insensitive" at times. wink


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
Be careful about blaming a guy for a crime committed with his stolen gun. Why not blame the actual criminal?


well chit, can't we blame them both? I mean the Federal Government with it's Fast and Furious scheme, and with it's careless officers, are the criminals choice for firearms procurement.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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An Oakland Muralist? I might have used the term "Tagger" but my wife says I lack empathy.

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You're not alone, I would have used the same terminology but then again I'm told by the women in the house that I can be "insensitive" at times. wink


I've NEVER been accused of being "sensitive"
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Originally Posted by 12344mag
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An Oakland Muralist? I might have used the term "Tagger" but my wife says I lack empathy.

mike r


You're not alone, I would have used the same terminology but then again I'm told by the women in the house that I can be "insensitive" at times. wink



I thought I was the only one who was being criticized by my wife and one of my D in L's about being too blunt and insensitive. grin


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Makes sense to me seeing as how Gil Kerlikowski had a hard time himself with not having his service weapon lost or stolen.


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I have it on good authority that criminals buy their guns using the 'gun show loophole'.


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Personally I wouldn't say muralist or tagger.....I was taught that defacing property was called vandalism....thus he was a vandal or simply criminal. Take your choice.


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Originally Posted by TexasRick
Personally I wouldn't say muralist or tagger.....I was taught that defacing property was called vandalism....thus he was a vandal or simply criminal. Take your choice.


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Kid bro is having some construction and remodeling done, see.
There's a big smelly dumpster out in his yard.
I stop over for a visit and to tip a few and I notice this funky grafitto on the dumpster.

"Wtf is that supposed to represent?" I asks.

"mexican gang tag."

"Wtf is tag? I live out in the sticks."

He explained it all.
I shook my head and spit on the ground.

He went inside to grab a couple more cold ones and I went to the truck for a wide black magic marker.

I figure, if your gonna vandalize someone's property, make a statement that's worth the crime.

Bro came back out and seen what I done and busted a gut laughing.

I drew a big arrow pointing at the "tag" and wrote,
"TRANSLATION: I'm a HOMO!"



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If he is being called a muralist, perhaps he was working legally.

I don't know if you are aware that some cities condone artwork on certain structures. In Chicago these are often specifically permitted with certain neighborhood themes on the walls of railroad overpasses. Also there is an industrial area with concrete-walled railroad embankments for over half a mile and each panel of the concrete - maybe 15 feet square - is another mural. Some are mundane, some political, the talent level varies but there are many interesting works and some are phenomenal. That's what I thought of when I read 'muralist'.


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