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This is what I am currently shooting.


1: 175 gr cast from an Accurate mold over 5.7 gr Universal.

2: 165 gr cast from RJM over 5.7 gr Universal

Or as Universal has gotten hard to find I substitute 5 gr Titegroup. The Titegroup load feels a bit snappier in the hand, but I have not clocked them.

Any of these first three suggestions are obviously very pleasant shooting for drills or novice shooters in the 657's or in the Titanium Tracker.

3: 210 gr cast from Accurate mold over 6 gr Titegroup. Also very pleasant to shoot from the 657 revolvers.

4: 210 gr Berrys over 12 gr SR4756 An inexpensive bullet left over from before I bought my mold. I use it for practice to simulate a working load.

I also often load the 210 Berrys over 6 gr Universal at a shorter COAL for 825 fps from a 7.5 inch barrel.

5: 210 gr Sierra over 12 gr Bluedot. I am ambivalent toward the Sierra 210. I picked some up when components were scarce. They make a decent practice load until I get them and the Bluedot all used up.

6: 210 XTP over 11 gr HS6. This is the bullet I carry in the gun when in the hills with wolves and black bears.

I use 12 gr Bluedot, 12 gr of SR4756, or 11 gr HS6 interchangeably with the 210 gr bullets. SR4756 has been discontinued. Bluedot has been disrecomended in the 41 by the manufacturer. So I am gravitating toward HS6.

7: 210XTP over 21 gr H110. This load makes 1390 fps from the 7.5 inch SBH hunter, and will print under three inches at fifty yards with the scope from the bench. I think it would make a great deer load if I ever get the chance to use it.

8: 250 gr cast from my accurate mold over 20 gr W296. I only shoot this one from the SBH Hunter. It recoils firmly but not quickly and is not unpleasant to shoot from the 56 oz revolver.

Thoughts on your loads...

Blue Dot: I noticed on LoadData.com that they were listing Blue Dot loads from Brian Pearce. When I inquired they wrote back and said these were newly developed loads that were now "safe" to use. There was never anything wrong with using Blue Dot in the .41, it was just some of the loading data that was out there was a little too "energetic"...

Load 7: I use the same bullet but with 23 grains. With H110/296, fill the case till the bullet rests on the bottom of the bullet. You'll get the highest velocity, lowest standard deviation round primers and the cases slide right out...even from the MG...

Do you have a chrono?

Bob

210 XTP, federal mag primer, 18 grs. AA#9 gives 1475 out of my BH.

Nice write up I_S.

Yes, I have a CED M2. Today, _I just ordered a new screen mounting bar for it, as the hinge broke on the original.

I had read also that Blue dot loads were coming back. But I have not seen any Bluedot in the stores for the last couple years. I really like SR4756. It is very clean at low power. Cleaner than Bluedot, and MUCH cleaner than Unique at low pressure. But that's a moot point as it is gone.

HS6 seems to burn much like SR4756, but I have only fired a few dozen 41's loaded with it. I think I bought the HS6 last year to load some 185 HB Berrys for Garret's new Sig 1911 45 acp.

I read an article on Titegroup a while back claiming it was the cat's meow for 9mm through 44 mag. Then I found a couple pounds when powders were impossible to find. So far, I am liking what I see with it.

I just came in from running a few rounds of 210 cast over 6 gr Titegroup through the MG. It is NOT a puss load. It felt stiffer than I had anticipated.

I have several loads that I am anxious to shoot over the clock. This one and the 250 gr load are first.

I started out with 23 gr H110 and the 210 gr bullet in the SBH and the Marlin. I fail to remember what prompted me to reduce the chage weight.

That is how I developed the load for the 250 gr cast. 20 gr of H110/W296 is all I can fit in the case and still seat the bullet deep enough to chamber in the SBH.

In a OM Ruger BH 4 5/8".

I have played with all of the 210gr bullets and like the Hornady 210 XTP the best for a JHP bullet. Have used the usual W296/H110/2400/Blue Dot powders all with good results.

That said the Elmer Keith load of a H&G 220gr cast lead over 7.5gr Unique has been my long time favorite.

Sold my H&G mould and have many regrets.

Sounds great...be careful with I think it was TiteGroup...several of guys over on the S&W forums have reported blowups when shooting with Magnum handguns. Great for small capacity cases but iffy with Magnums... In cases with lots of airspace they are thinking it could "flashover".

6.0 should be a low velocity target load...less than 8.0 grains of Unique...

I am out of state for a while and will post some loads when I get back home.

Bob

6 gr Titegroup recoiled harder than I remember the 6 gr Universal loads did. But I was shooting them through the MG today, as apposed to the 6 inch 657 with the Universal loads.

I will take a look at the Smith forums. I am not too worried with the 165/175 cast wth Titegroup. I have reduced the air space of the case pretty drastically with the seating depth.

What are the details on your 250gr mould?

I'm a fan of the .41 also and have a SBH like you, wish it had the Bisley grip frame.

Oh man, you're gonna make me go open the safe and get out my reading glasses. Be right back!

The mold is from Accurate. It has five cavities.

1 210 gr ......#411210T

3 175 gr.......#411175M

and 1 250 gr...#411250A

I used 255 gr LBT Wide Flat Nose with a max load of H-110.

A dream to shoot in a 7.5" RedHawk

Mike

it might be just me, but it seems like no 2 is seated kind of deep. That intentional?
I think i have shot all of those with unique.

Ron,
Look more closely at #1 on the left.

Yes, they are seated deeply.

The only difference between a 38 spl and a 357, or a 44 spl vs 44 mag is the amount of space under the base of the bullet. The actual length of the cartridge case is irrevelent.

These first two are 41 spl loads in a magnum case.

I quit using Unique in these reduced power loads because it is very dirty at these pressure levels.

makes sense, see the idea now.
no 1 i had a similar mould for a few years ago, borrowed from a guy i knew. Shot the last of them a couple of months ago. Pleasant target round. I think i have a simiar weight in a slovenian mould haven't pulled out of the box yet. Thought it would be ideal for the taurus revolver.
next weekend i will be up north, taking a bunch of half empty boxes of 41 up to burn up. Want to play with the rifle too a little bit.
Translated i have to empty some to get the brass reloaded into something else.

[quote=woods_walker]In a OM Ruger BH 4 5/8".

I have played with all of the 210gr bullets and like the Hornady 210 XTP the best for a JHP bullet. Have used the usual W296/H110/2400/Blue Dot powders all with good results.

That said the Elmer Keith load of a H&G 220gr cast lead over 7.5gr Unique has been my long time favorite.

Sold my H&G mould and have many regrets.





I bet you do on the mould. Those if they are a hensley mould bring way big bucks these days.
the guy in slovenia made a replica some time back that was group ordered on the cast bullets forum.
i think that load is just about ideal for most purposes.

i picked up some years ago some sierra 210grain jacketed soft points that kind of appealed to me. Big ol lead flatpoint on the end.

that xtp also throws a lot of thump.

Thanks for looking. You ever wish that bullet had a gas check on it?

6: 210 XTP over 11 gr HS6. This is the bullet I carry in the gun when in the hills with wolves and black bears.
bears are what first got me interested in big bore handguns after a couple of experiences.
I think we have the wolfs in central arizona now too or the mixed coywolves.
That marlin in 41 although firing a handgun round isn't a slouch at all. it's getting up there around the 38.55range in that old cartridge.
The one i have is pretty quick for repetitve fire and accurate.

I have had very good performance with 8.5 grains Unique & 210 grains SWC cast, and 13.0 grains Blue Dot & 200 grains Speer JHP bullets.

Also like 21.0 grains H110 & 210 grains Sierra JHP bullets.

Marlin 1894S .41 Mag., and S&W 57.

Works for me.

L.W.