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Originally Posted by gerrygoat

Considering the price of 28 gauge shells it might be an option especially for someone who only wants to load a couple of boxes a year for hunting.


I priced a case of 28's compared to 20's last week and the difference was a $20 bill.

Whatever that's worth.



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I'm a improve modified and #5 kinda guy but in the case of a 28 ga one would probably be better off with 6s to up the pellet count a bit, So Clark or Dave could you try and talk some sense to Travis give him a few beers first, that might help make him more agreeable.


Travis is a very objective and open minded guy. But that doesn't change the fact that he already knows everything.



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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by gerrygoat

Considering the price of 28 gauge shells it might be an option especially for someone who only wants to load a couple of boxes a year for hunting.

I priced a case of 28's compared to 20's last week and the difference was a $20 bill. Whatever that's worth.
Travis


Travis-
Just an fyi but you might take a look at the 28ga Baschieri & Pellagri shotshells sold in the USA by Aerostar Outdoors;

B&P has a 15/16 oz, 1300 fps 28ga load: B&P 28ga 15/16oz 1300 fps
and a 1 & 1/16 oz, 1210 fps 28ga load: B&P 28ga 1&1/16 oz 1210 fps

I've used some of the B&P shells in my 16 and 20 ga guns with good results - both on birds and clays.
Right now Aerostar has a free shipping promo on any size order, see: Aerostar Outdoors Catalog


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I haven't used my 28 gauge a whole lot, but enough to say it works just fine on forest grouse with #6s.

I've used a .410 quite a bit and the 3" shells out of it will straight up knock a pheasant's dick in the dirt at 40+ yards. Maybe it's the combo with the full choke...I dunno.



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Thanks MT.




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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Travis, are you ordering the 28 ga.???? Life is short you better have it!! I love mine, just have others I love as much!!


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yeah, 6's and 7's work great on pheasants in the 28 (or any gauge), but they work better if they're hard. They don't have to be plated, but high-antimony shot definitely penetrates deeper than "standard" shot, because it doesn't flatten out when it hits.

Hard shot costs more, whether in factory or handloads, but using hard shot a size or two smaller than standard shot provides a denser pattern and penetrates just as deeply. But I know a lot of people who refuse to pay for better shot, just like many people refuse to pay for better rifle bullets.


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Travis, are you ordering the 28 ga.???? Life is short you better have it!! I love mine, just have others I love as much!!


WCH,

I'm going to get the Benelli UL I believe. I will be in Scheels today and see if they have any.

But I am in no big hurry right now. If I hunt birds any more before the end of the season it will be with the M2 anyway. Probably pick one up after New Years.

This Santa schit is fugkin' expensive. grin




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You getting a 20 or 28? I can't even imagine how light a Benelli ultralight would be in 28ga.! The 12 feels like a feather!

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Originally Posted by rifletom
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Yeah, 6's and 7's work great on pheasants in the 28 (or any gauge), but they work better if they're hard. They don't have to be plated, but high-antimony shot definitely penetrates deeper than "standard" shot, because it doesn't flatten out when it hits.

Hard shot costs more, whether in factory or handloads, but using hard shot a size or two smaller than standard shot provides a denser pattern and penetrates just as deeply. But I know a lot of people who refuse to pay for better shot, just like many people refuse to pay for better rifle bullets.


^^^This is so damn true!^^^



I shot 4 rounds of 5-stand today with a Caesar Guerinni 28 ga with 32 inch barrels....I love the gun. I will out to the field to pick up the un-broken birds finding quite a few with pellet hits yet no broken pieces with magnum #8 shot. I shot my first around alone. I am going to hard (magmum) 7 1/2 shot in everything for sporting clays.

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w have u 7 1/2 or 6's in u 28's for years on everything from Sharptails and wild rosters to rufies and released birds .We shoot them with open and modified chokes with no issues.
The Fausti ea I owned was a incredible gun, but I sold it in favor of my double triggered , English stocked Ugartechea.
The guy I sold it to uses it more than any other gun he owns and he shots a pile of birds!
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Just got back from two days in central SD. We just crushed the pheasants but in thinking back over the shots, an easy 85% of them could have been taken with any light 28 ga., say a Ben UL or Legacy or a properly framed SxS in 28. It actually was probably much closer to 90%.

Plus, in plodding along 5-10 miles of uneven, muddy, or snowy, Dakota countryside, a 5 lb 28 is much more amenable to the process than a 7-8 lb 12 ga. that becomes the stone under the mattress you just cannot ignore.

True, there are shots you don't attempt with a 28 that you can accomplish with the 12 but so what,..there are plenty of birds that will flush close, even in December.

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Can you get steel or non lead shot for a 28? One of the issues I have when hunting in SD with my 16 gauge was hunting on Wildlife Production areas. Which require non lead shot.

I ended up using my LW 12 gauge with steel. Much easier to find steel every where. Plus you cant have and lead on you in steel or non lead areas. Simpler solution is 2 shotguns and 2 different vests.


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Google Mack's Praire Wings. If there is a non-toxic in any gauge, they
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I shoot left handed so shotgun options are somewhat limited. I shoot mostly o/u. Is the 28 ga.SKB on a smaller frame than the 20 ga.? What o/u 28s are on the smaller frame? I see no advantage to the 28 if they are on the same frame.

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I had a Bretta 28 and a couple 20's.. I think the 28 was a smaller frame..


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Don't know about the SKB's, but the currently manufactured Beretta Silver Pigeon I and Silver Pigeon V 28 gauges are on the "baby" frame. Other Berettas have been made on the 20 gauge frame. I have them both ways and don't have a strong opinion either way.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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You come across like a Mossberg guy, but hey, who knows.

If you don't count the O/U Staggs built 30-30/20 gauge, this is the only upland gun I shoot. Churchill 28- 23" I/C M barrels. Chukar, quail, pheasant, grouse. I enjoy the 28 very much and it keeps up with the 12 gauge shell shucker guy I hunt with.

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What does that thing weigh?
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Travis, sorry I was not able to reply sooner. I do not have an accurate scale so I can't help you there. It's light, due to it's short barrels, but not featherlight as the high end guns can be. It suits me fine. I've sold off all but one or two other scatterguns as I find this to be ideal for my shooting. I have not seen another with 23" barrels though. Pretty rare I expect. It was not an expensive gun at $750 or so IIRC. I would buy a 20 gauge if I were inclined to shop for a mate to it. Not sure why really.


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Originally Posted by Fireball2
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You come across like a Mossberg guy, but hey, who knows.

If you don't count the O/U Staggs built 30-30/20 gauge, this is the only upland gun I shoot. Churchill 28- 23" I/C M barrels. Chukar, quail, pheasant, grouse. I enjoy the 28 very much and it keeps up with the 12 gauge shell shucker guy I hunt with.

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What does that thing weigh?
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Travis, sorry I was not able to reply sooner. I do not have an accurate scale so I can't help you there. It's light, due to it's short barrels, but not featherlight as the high end guns can be. It suits me fine. I've sold off all but one or two other scatterguns as I find this to be ideal for my shooting. I have not seen another with 23" barrels though. Pretty rare I expect. It was not an expensive gun at $750 or so IIRC. I would buy a 20 gauge if I were inclined to shop for a mate to it. Not sure why really.


I've got it's twin. They are Churchill Windsor Flyweights.
I bought mine new 30 or so years ago. Never put mine on a scale but it's light and a tiny thing.


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I have had a couple of "proper" 28 gauge SxS's over the years and have moved them on given my proper sized 20 and 16 bores. Seemed more hype and desire than real advantage. I still have a number of boxes of Remington paper hull shells I should unload.


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