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Obama created ISIS. Can't blame Bush for them.

Chit, and all this time i thought your master created I stepped in s h it by pulling the troops out and created a vaccum. 😱

Bush's "legacy" is right here at home in the guise of: The Patriot Act, Homeland Security etc. And I am a conservative Republican, lest you think otherwise.

History may show it was a mistake to invade Iraq.
However history will show the bigger mistakes have/will be made by zero.
ISIS, Arab spring, his mishandling of Iraq, the mess that is the present ME and it's continual downward spiral.

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without question

...and the point is?

He's a fuc k ing moron. Personal vendetta accomplished by going back into Iraq and finishing what his daddy couldn't and oil prices rose to way beyond normal. Did I mention he's a worthless piece of chit?

GWB's presidential legacy is Obama.

GWB paved the way for whoever won the Democratic nomination to attain the presidency. McCain sealed the deal, but probably wouldn't have mattered who it was.

No one talks about Jimmah toppling the Shah of Iran. How has that worked out?

Saddam was bad enough, but are things in Iraq better now?

Those Jihadist cultures seem to be most stable, crazies contained, when they have a strong man in charge. We work hard to bring them "democracy" and we are rewarded with the Arab Spring. Wasn't for the Egyptian military, that country would be another Iran.

The more we meddle, arming "moderates", the more ISIS types we'll see on TV parading around in our fine military vehicles, black flags flying.

Look at the mess in Syria. By half heartedly trying to topple Assad, we opened the door for Putin to become a major player.

Turkey was let into NATO, now they're hooking horns with Russia. Does that draw NATO into the Syrian civil war, a proxy war that could spread into a regional conflict, or worse?

This leading from behind stuff is gonna get our behinds kicked if things don't change.

DF

All those who want to chit on W consider this:

Where would the World be if the hanging chads fell Gore's way? Odds are Al Queda would be so strong that Europe and the US would have been in flames ten years ago. Don't think the Muslims haven't had this mass emigration planned and funded for a long time. Obama's Arab Spring fiasco just gave the mass confusion to accelerate it.

richer for sure

ISIS is on Obongo's watch.

W will go down as a typical establishment republican president.

His greatest fault was not answering back to the drive by's with his bully pulpit, as does (and will) Trump

Why don't we hear your hero blowing about Arab Spring anymore? Could be a fricken' clue there.

GWB is out of office, the mess we find ourselves in right now is squarely on the shoulder of the idiot that we have in the White House.

He pulled troops from Iraq and he never should have done it. They provided a semblance of stability and that's not a bad thing to have in the Middle East. People say we shouldn't meddle in their business but the fact of the matter is they want us dead regardless of what we are or aren't doing over there. It's an ideal and they have waged jihad on us for our beliefs.

What's incredible to me is that Zero wants to do the exact same thing to Assad that GWB did with Hussein and in a much more critical time in the crisis and to pour fuel onto the fire he wants to import more of these sub human pieces of excrement to the USA under the guise of "refugees"

I'll say this for GW, he knew that nothing good came from pussy footing around over there. You don't half ass anything or you just end up in the mess we're in. If you hit them you hit them hard and you don't stop

Until we get somebody with a nut sack in the White House we're all screwed

Al Qaeda et all were defeated before Bush left office. All Tyrant Obama the Liar had to do was maintain the peace. That required leaving 10-20 thousand men stationed in Iraq to back up the Iraqis. Tyrant Obama the Liar refused to do this. He only wanted to leave a token force in Iraq and the Iraqis decided that their was no point in signing a SOF agreement for so few troops. Then Tyrant Obama the Liar did what he is best at he lied and blamed his failure on the Iraqis. As a result Tyrant Obama the Liar lost the peace and now you progressive fascists are lying again and blaming Obama's failure on GWB.

Nothing that any other president had done is worse than Tyrant Obama the Liar's betrayal of our country by helping Iran get nuclear weapons and giving them $150 billion to wage war against Israel and the rest of the Middle East.

I think it all ties together, starting Waaay back, before partitioning the area into the modern "States" defined by ill considered borders.

Mostly, as far as GWB goes, his legacy to me, and I'll remember it until I get dementia, is the way he looked in a certain classroom on a certain day on a certain September morning. Not a very Presidential look, and worse yet, not very Presidential action.

I'm glad I don't get to sit around at my job when the stuff starts getting strange. I work with living critters, non-human, and thing die if I don't act when things go whacko.

Geno

Only an idiot or a progressive fascist would think that it made one iota of difference if Bush spend 10 minutes reading to the children.