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I have an original, made in 1893 '86 Winchester in 45-70, it sports a half octagon half round barrel of 26"s with the half mag, it's loaded with the 500 gr Jerry Dean grease groove bullets and powered to 1236 fps by KIK Holy Black. I fired a best 3 shot half inch group with it at 50 yards with the factory buckhorns, no wiping or blow tubing, gonna be taking this rifle in the cedar and pine creek bottom thickets over in Ar. this weekend after wt deer, hope to root a few out and bust 'em with this fine old rifle, I can't wait! 
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Will be after 'em hard Crowrifle, I'll bet that big greaser will let me take the path that's offered to the vitals.
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Those old guns were made to shoot, not sit in a corner somewhere. I have killed a carload of critters with them and continue to hunt them. It doesn't always have to be big either, it is just fun to take these things for a walk...
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You bet Shrapnel, I heartily agree, thought about taking my Sharps but have been in those bottoms many times before and have busted 10-12 deer at a time in a group, believe I can work that lever action a little faster and try to go ahead and tag out, season is rapidly drawing to a close.
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My best deer ever; 1886 45-70... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/Deer/scan0021.jpg)
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Nice buck and with a .45-70!! May I ask what year?????
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Wow!!! I was only 45 then!! I looked a lot younger and had NO gray hair.. Great buck, and with a great rifle.. Congrats..
Thinks were sure easier in those days.. Hope you get squared away with the health issues.. When we have our health we have it all.. Best wishes..
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The one I had started out as a 40-82 and at some point was rechambered to 45-70. I never even had to mess with the sights. I have an older Lyman manual with three levels of 45-70 loadings, IIRC. The second level was for 1886 Winchesters and I utilized this. The recoil was never nearly as bad as with the Marlin 1895's of the day.
I shot a big cow with it one time. Poor old critter was bogged down in a pond and we'd tried everything to get her to go ahead and calve. My Uncle should have had me shoot her a couple of hours before we did, but it was his call. Critters like this are typically a whole lot harder to kill than some healthy cow. This one was DRT with the 1886 and my handload under some 400 grain bullet I cast in a Lyman mold.
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They work on buffalo too... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/Hunting%20big%20game/100_0566.jpg)
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I need to shoot a spike this month, but I sure do feel silly shooting a 100 lb deer with a 500 grain bullet  But there is a big sow wandering around the lease, with a couple litters. I could try to line up 3 in a row...
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I loaded 400 grain cast bullets for that buffalo. It completely penetrated the bull and a cow on the other side it. I don't think many people understand momentum with these old cartridges. I have shot a ton of game with them, but they still don't kill like high velocity... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/Deer/100_0563.jpg)
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The biggest mistake i ever made was to sell my win. 45-70 extra light made in 1901, killed alot of deer with it, a 400lb Black bear and a cow Buff! wishing you Luck this weekend!
Deer Camp! about as good as it gets!
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SRC's are good medicine on turkeys too... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/birds/100_0560.jpg)
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Nice critters Shrapnel, I derive great satisfaction hunting and killing game with the old guns too, spinning turrets at game several football fields away is okay, but not near as satisfying.
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The one I had started out as a 40-82 and at some point was rechambered to 45-70. I never even had to mess with the sights. I have an older Lyman manual with three levels of 45-70 loadings, IIRC. The second level was for 1886 Winchesters and I utilized this. The recoil was never nearly as bad as with the Marlin 1895's of the day.
I shot a big cow with it one time. Poor old critter was bogged down in a pond and we'd tried everything to get her to go ahead and calve. My Uncle should have had me shoot her a couple of hours before we did, but it was his call. Critters like this are typically a whole lot harder to kill than some healthy cow. This one was DRT with the 1886 and my handload under some 400 grain bullet I cast in a Lyman mold. 500 grs with Holy Black is a blast all unto itself EE, wish y'all could have chained that cow out, birthed and saved the calf anyway.
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I need to shoot a spike this month, but I sure do feel silly shooting a 100 lb deer with a 500 grain bullet But there is a big sow wandering around the lease, with a couple litters. I could try to line up 3 in a row... Do it Tex, no shame, heck, I've shot a couple Oklahoma armadillos with a 577 Nitro. , they don't care. 
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The biggest mistake i ever made was to sell my win. 45-70 extra light made in 1901, killed alot of deer with it, a 400lb Black bear and a cow Buff! wishing you Luck this weekend! Dang, hard lick right there Saddlering, it's easy to see you still miss that rifle, I had a friend put a hard eye on my '86, knowing exactly the kind of begging, conniving, conspirator he is I shouted "FORGET IT BUD!!!!!" Thanks for the well wish, I 'll be on 'em if they mess up.
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The one I had started out as a 40-82 and at some point was rechambered to 45-70. I never even had to mess with the sights. I have an older Lyman manual with three levels of 45-70 loadings, IIRC. The second level was for 1886 Winchesters and I utilized this. The recoil was never nearly as bad as with the Marlin 1895's of the day.
I shot a big cow with it one time. Poor old critter was bogged down in a pond and we'd tried everything to get her to go ahead and calve. My Uncle should have had me shoot her a couple of hours before we did, but it was his call. Critters like this are typically a whole lot harder to kill than some healthy cow. This one was DRT with the 1886 and my handload under some 400 grain bullet I cast in a Lyman mold. 500 grs with Holy Black is a blast all unto itself EE, wish y'all could have chained that cow out, birthed and saved the calf anyway. We put pullers on the calf, waded into the pond. She might have got back in on her own after she got out...it's been thirty years ago, but we did all we could. When I first saw the situation, I knew I'd be shooting her and should have right then. She was my Uncle's cow though, so it was his call. It just put her through a lot more pain than she needed to go through. I never shot black in that gun. It certainly had the capability, but I didn't want to clean it. I've probably still got some of those handloads someplace.
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