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There are interesting rifles. I dropped a cull buck with mine opening weekend. Hawk 180gr soft point worked fine.

If you haven't already done so, take down the action and liberally lube/clean the firing pin. Mine was gummed up with ancient oil. And taking apart the front end of the rifle can be rather entertaining

A modern version of that cartridge, with a .223 case head blown out to .357 caliber could be a darned interesting round for an AR.

BWAAHAHAHA, they are funny cool little rifles Tex, that's the bullet I have on the way, the 180 Hawk and 19 gr of 4227 is where I'm gonna start, I'll chrono some of the old loaded fmj and softs and keep my speeds there, I've read this is one rifle design I DONT want to fool around with hot-rodding it.

Good to see it will kill deer safely loaded as you show here.

Listed a peep sight That I belive is for an 1886 rifle, here in the Class.

Somewhere I have a box of parts from another 1907. I should really make up a few replacement recoil springs, as they tend to mechanically wear on their guide rods. It's a blowback operated action and a spring fracture would probably be unwelcome

I ran 2400 under the Hawks in my rifle and they worked fine, though have not chrono'd them. I agree pushing the envelope is best not done in that 109 year old contraption.

Spares wont hurt for sure Tex, Wolff makes new recoil springs for these rifles, my load of 19 gr of 4227 ran 1941 fps.

The little 180 Hawk spit her core, but not before going through about 3ft of water jugs end to end, [commercial pool chemical plastic pails to be exact]

I've really enjoyed my new '86 so far but down the road would like to have the mod done eliminating the rebounding hammer and tang safety.The 45/90 chambering is the bomb,very accurate, hard hitting with big cast greasers that function flawlessly.

Shooting KIK-2 holy black and Blackhorn 209 surprisingly both loads shoot to almost the same POI...

This much fun should be illegal !

!00yds.. Lyman 457643 casts a heavy 419grs at 30:1 ...my old peepers ain't the greatest anymore.

Good medicine for rabbits...

I actually saw a .38-55 in a 94 rifle this weekend; at first glance I thought it was a modern gun, but I looked again and realized it was a 1894, around 400,000 s/n. It had been carefully refinished, down to re-engraving the lettering. The price was reasonable, and I may have to give this one another look.

Hey Saddlering, mine aint D&T'd for a receiver sight, hit was hammered together in the year of 1893.

Bet someone needs one though.

Woody,
Those 86's be it new-r repro or old are fine rifle, there is just something about carrying one, I love em.

Shrap,
Good fun and better eating right there, glad to see pics of you getting the young bucks out and getting it done, mentoring in this way will help insure they grow into fine men and 'proper' voters.

Tex,
Oopps, fat finger typo, my 351 SL load is running '1841 fps,' action still functions fine at those speeds, haven't had any function issues to date with my rifle, but, on your bit about yours being gummed a bit, did drip a bit of Kroil down/around the firing pin hole in the bolt and propped it up at straight 12 o'clock for a couple days to soak, wiped her out and re oiled with a bit of Lucas Gun Oil, and she's off to the races and ready to rip.

Did notice a hairline crack on the left upper portion of the forearm, figuring there's a sliding counterweight of sorts in there kinda beating things about, if it begins to bother me I'll have 'Smith repair the crack and relieve the wood if available to do so.

Grab it, been eyeballing a nice long octagon barreled '94 in 32-40 WCF myself as of late.

This is what the massive breechblock looks like, on my older rifle. It lived a hard life on a ranch in South Texas. Probably weighs a pound or two, and yeah almost all of them crack the forend, mine included.



Today I bet it would cost $500 to make one of those breechblocks

Good Lord, what a chunk, no wonder the forearms take a beating.

You did copy on Wolff making new recoil springs for these?

I did, thanks. I'll hold off making any, in that case.

10-4 Tex.