The heaviest recoiling long gun that I have shot is my Ruger#1 in 458WinMag. I tapped out after firing 3 rounds of 350gr @ 2400fps, and 3 rounds of 400gr @ 2350fps. That 30yr old, solid rubber recoil "pad" on the Ruger isn't very effective when shooting on a concrete bench in a T-shirt. It was painful enough that I probably won't be taking it to the range again.
The heaviest recoiling long gun that I have shot is my Ruger#1 in 458WinMag. I tapped out after firing 3 rounds of 350gr @ 2400fps, and 3 rounds of 400gr @ 2350fps. That 30yr old, solid rubber recoil "pad" on the Ruger isn't very effective when shooting on a concrete bench in a T-shirt. It was painful enough that I probably won't be taking it to the range again.
Good point on the factory Ruger "recoil pads" Phil. The original red pad I removed from my .458(converted to 450#2) had a Goodyear logo on the underside, I [bleep] you not! It was about as soft as a tire! I fitted quality pads to all of mine.
Recoil damn sure bugs me, and an ill fitting rifle will amplify it many times. My worst was a Rem 700 Classic in .338 Win Mag. Horrible kicker(for me). Used it one season, on a black bear and a couple deer, and sold it. The other was a Rem 700 Safari KS .375 H&H with a 20" tube. Way too light for a .375. Viscous best describes the recoil! Unlike some, I find the Ruger No.1 fits me great, and have no problems with my 450 #2, or 450/400.
No matter the cartridge, stock fit is numero uno! IMO.
Jeff
I notice you didn't mention your handloads in your Marlin 1895.
Recoil induced memory loss, maybe?
Ed
Your memory is pretty dang good for an old guy Ed!
That little Marlin carbine with full tilt 400 grainers was a nasty sucker!
No doubt as I started, first, playing with the 475 and 500 Linebaugh's in Ruger Bisley platforms did I learn that one needs to start easy, work up at it and keep at it. I am lacking in the latter these days given my number of years living abroad but there is no greater satisfaction learning to shoot the boomers well that is the tack now retired.
Recoil damn sure bugs me, and an ill fitting rifle will amplify it many times. My worst was a Rem 700 Classic in .338 Win Mag. Horrible kicker(for me). Used it one season, on a black bear and a couple deer, and sold it. The other was a Rem 700 Safari KS .375 H&H with a 20" tube. Way too light for a .375. Viscous best describes the recoil! Unlike some, I find the Ruger No.1 fits me great, and have no problems with my 450 #2, or 450/400.
No matter the cartridge, stock fit is numero uno! IMO.
Jeff
Hear hear!
I have one as well. Something akin to being swatted in the shoulder with a baseball bat. I have a friend who didn't like the recoil of his .375 H&H and said he was going to get himself a .388 WM instead. I tried to dissuade him and told him it was worse than the .375, but failed. He later brought his Kimber out to shoot. I was ready for a beating but found that light rifle not as bad as most '06's. I'm thinking of getting a different stock for mine.
I shot a lot of big bore rifles before I learned how to shoot big bores. I don't find any of my rifles starting with a 4 to be obnoxious. I have, however, found some starting with a 5 to be unfun, and all of those starting with a 6 downright unpleasant.
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Yes, and it seems to bother me more the farther I get on the other side of 50.
I have had the pleasure of the 378 Weatherby and after a half a box of 300 gr. FMJ's from sitting , offhand and from a standing rest I knew that I didn't want that fast, nasty hard kicking bitch no mater how pretty the wood and how good of a deal it was.
I owned an 8.25 lb. all up 358 STA for a brief time that was hard on scopes and me.
An original Model 1895 with the curved metal butt plate with Kynoch 300 gr. bullets was a bit unpleasant to shoot. And that same afternoon the old 470 double pegged out my fun meter for the day.
My old ported Guide Gun w/ 400 gr. Speer on top of 56.5 gr. of H335 got my attention.
I've owned several 458 Win., two 458 Lott's, two 416 Rigby's that all found other homes. I kept a 404 Jeffery for a while and it finally went to a friend who has pestered me for years. I still have an 1886 in 45-70, an 1895 in 405 WCF and my 375 H&H that I enjoy.
When I'm looking at my finger,it's bleeding. When I wipe the bolt,that's the skin and scab being wiped off. The checkering on the bottom of the bolt is hitting my trigger finger. Shot the .460 ten times the week before that video was taken.
Going to load the .460 down to about the 2400-2500 fps range.
Several years ago, a friend bought a Ruger #1 in 416 Remington. I shot that rifle on several occasions and found the recoil was too much after a few rounds. It was a beautiful rifle, just more recoil than I care to handle.
I just saw the same rifle in .458 Lott at a Cabelas. Beautiful but deadly (on both ends) IMO.
Retired from the #1 maybe. I have other 45cal rifles to shoot. MinMag refers to the 458x1.8's that I made for Southern Michigan Deer hunting.
Originally Posted by akjeff
Good point on the factory Ruger "recoil pads" Phil. The original red pad I removed from my .458(converted to 450#2) had a Goodyear logo on the underside, I [bleep] you not! It was about as soft as a tire! I fitted quality pads to all of mine.
Jeff
Goodyear, eh? That's funny. Maybe a new recoil pad is in that gun's future.
OK, back to the original question. I shot a buddies Encore pistol in 50 Alaskan ... once. I didn't care to pull the trigger a second time. My hand was a little too small for his custom grip and I was worried that I would lose hold of it. It was a boomer, for sure.
^ Lucky it got his earmuffs and not his noggin. I bet he never shoots that combo again.
I have a really light .44 mag (Taurus Tracker 44) and with full out loads its all I can handle. The first 4 times I shot it, was pretty bad, but the second time I went out and shot it, my body at learned to compensate for the kick somewhat and it wasn't too bad. I got 2" groups at 25 yards.
My Winchester Safari Express .458 firing my reloads consisting of 500gn Woodleigh @2200 is my absolute limit. It's horrible to shoot of the bench and when shooting offhand if one's not careful it can/ will scope you..
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