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The .338 Norma Magnum will work better on a Remington 700 LA I believe. I did development on my gunsmith's personal rifle.


That said, I personally have no use for a .338 caliber rifle for anything including Long Range shooting. The Mashburn with the 195, the .300 with the 230 Berger will accomplish the same without the cost factor. You also can't use a .338 caliber cartridge for any competition I'm into....


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You haven't lived until you've played with the 195's in that 7WSM wink

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Ok, ok, ok already!

Give me the speed you are getting from a WSM and I'll make a [bleep] "chart" and look at it. Satisfied?! grin





With that conceded this is a whole 'nuther type of beast. Stop trying to pigeonhole me back into a mid weight 7mm. I HAVE that. This Big .33 will take a while to put together; scoped it'll be a ~$4000 build. And those are American dollars, Jordan! smile

The Lite (that's my 7 WSM "Sendero Lite") has been and will continue to get the snot shot out of it. I LOVE that rifle and am very happy with it across the board. But this is something else. Around here they are colloquially called "Landing Rifles", as in logging landings. NOT a carry rifle. NOT a regular old hunting rifle. I've got those in spades. This is different.


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Landing rifle or not, do you need to deliver that much payload downrange? The same heavy platform could be used to good effect launching smaller yet still high BC projectiles with reduced cost in several ways.

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Mr. Man of Math! Good to see you sir.

Need? No. A 300 RUM is also in consideration. Beyond that gets into pretty serious overbore.



Ok, unleash the damn hellhouds, here we go. This'll kill the thread.

I want to build a LR bull elk rifle. Yes I know I know I KNOW you don't "need" a .33 to kill a bull elk. Did I mention I know that? But I WANT one. If it's braked anyway the recoil isn't a factor. Cost per round, likewise, plus the .33 bore will likely double the useful barrel life of a Big 7.

Not a NEED guys. I know this. A WANT. A toy. Something fun to put together in 2016/17 while I wait for the tag.... for the area I saw big bulls... several of them.... in an area with legit LR opportunities.... for ONCE....


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Hey, don't let the nay-sayers persuade you. Go all the way or go home, the "pip-squeak" rounds (.223 thru 7mm) are fun and all, but after 1200 yds my LR 300 Winny had trouble consistently hitting targets. But my 338 Rum squirting the 300 Sierra had no problems on target at REAL distances between 1600 and 2300 yards. AND! It made a very pronounced "OMG! Did you hear that!" impact downrange.

If you want enough energy to drop the rock of Gibraltar into the ocean, then go 338 Rum or Edge.

Nothing is more fun except maybe a 378 Wby rockin' and rollin' downrange while distorting the "space & time continuum".....

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Can I hear a HELL YEAH!! grin


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Maybe the REMINGTON Ultra Magnum?




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Originally Posted by CreekWarrior

If you want enough energy to drop the rock of Gibraltar into the ocean......


I think he's more of a "Hammer of Thor" kind of guy.



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Good memory, SP! smile


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If useing a 700 action a 338 edge is the way to go.

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Originally Posted by gemby58
If useing a 700 action a 338 edge is the way to go.


I agree, but what do I know. Trying to keep an open mind here. smile

Campfire consensus on the Edge? How's 300 RUM brass (the parent case) availability these days? Spotty?


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700 action, 338 winny or 338 RUM.

Custom action, 338 Lapua or Lazz Titan.



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I'd go with the .338 Edge set up for 300gr Bergers. While I've got 300 pieces of virgin .300 ultra brass on hand and Rem brass does become available sporadically I believe Defensive Edge carries Edge brass in stock. Talk to Shawn Carlock.


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
Originally Posted by CreekWarrior


Like Bob says, the ease of finding 340 Wby brass/ammo is much, much easier. 340 Wby cases can be readily made from 375 H&H brass, though I feel 8 Mag brass or 300 Wby brass is easier to use. One pass through the sizer die makes perfect 340 cases whereas 375 H&H cases need to be incrementally sized down or the case may collapse.


Yup. CW is right.

Just used the 375H&H case to illustrate it can be done,but the others may be easier. My buddy used to form from 375H&h stuff,which is why I mentioned it. The 340 is based on the H&H case....I think it's just the 300 Weatherby necked up.


Easy. Used Rem 300 Wby cases to go to one-pass 340s.

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The big 33's are like a shut-down corner in the NFL--they shut down bull elk "out in the flat." But you have to be able carry it up the hill and you have to be able to shoot it.

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Well, see, that's the thing. When you've seen bull elk swat away 7mm's at long range like an annoying deer fly, it leaves quite an impression!







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Well, JB puts up those videos of elk getting poleaxed by 6.5's w/Bergers, so clearly, the bullet, and the nut behind the butt (placement) are a huge part of the equation. But a 300 gn .338 cal bullet has got to leave a pretty good mark. I hope to find out.


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Why not a .338-378 K-T.

Yeah,I know it won't fit in a Remington 700,.532" vs. .590". But,damn it'll be something very different.

And Quality Cartridge even makes the brass. You will have to wait for it though,not exactly a bunch of .338-378 K.T.'s out there.


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Ross Seyfried wrote an article about the .338-378 K.T. in the June 1986 issue of Guns & Ammo.


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Well.... maybe NEXT big .33 <g>.

I grew up in Socorro but I had to google Mesquite. We used to roam around the Gila a lot and hit Elephant Butte a few times, but I don't think I ever got south of Las Cruces. Mostly I was up in central and northern NM. I really want to get back down there. She holds a piece of my heart....


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