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looking for a good bolt action 22 for under 500 bucks main use will be target shooting and sum hunting thanks for any input...

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Ruger American Rimfire if you are talking informal target shooting.


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CZ 455 or the Ruger 77/22.




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Originally Posted by deflave
CZ 455 or the Ruger 77/22.




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Or a CZ 452. They're excellent rifles.

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Can you get 452 new anymore? I thought they stopped building them.


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Can you get 452 new anymore? I thought they stopped building them.


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You can still buy CZ 452's sometimes when you find old stock. You can't get a more accurate 22 for under $500 than a 452. You might pay about $600 for a 453 but I prefer them if you can find one.

Go to www.rimfirecentral.com and check the classifieds and ask in the CZ forum. Those CZ guys know when anyone has 452's.

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Just picked up a Savage from Bud's.....cute little sucker..

and shoots great....Savage has a good selection...or......

CZ of course...bought a LNIB CZ 452 17M2 recently...well made !!

Wouldn't pass up a nice 77/22 either.......

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The CZs are great shooters, but the safety and magazine hanging out the bottom make them less handy in the field. 77/22s are my favorite, but you will not likely find one for $500, even used, without a lot of luck or persistence. I'd look at the Ruger Americans. They're nicely finished for the price, have iron sights, and according to reports here, shoot pretty well. 10 shot flush magazine too.

Personally, I'd also look at a tube-fed Marlin. They have been made in stainless and will feed shorts, I believe. They may be a bit harder to find.


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Originally Posted by Solheim
looking for a good bolt action 22 for under 500 bucks main use will be target shooting and sum hunting thanks for any input...


A few days ago there was a Remington 504 in the classifieds for $500. I know that some of them had accuracy issues but on the other hand some of them shoot exceedingly well. IIRC the seller said this one whot quite well. You might check out the ad to see if it is something of interest to you.

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Originally Posted by humdinger
Can you get 452 new anymore? I thought they stopped building them.



Keep a close eye on Whittaker's facebook page. They have had CZ build them NEW 452s. I bought a 2015 production 452 American in August. Whittaker's buys about 1000 a year, and they are delivered in batches of 250-350 three or four times a year (at least, that's been the case for the last couple of years.)

The new 452s sell out very fast, they sold 300+ in about THREE DAYS last summer. I missed one from that batch, but I was able to get one in the next batch.

Keep a sharp eye on that Facebook page, if you want a 452, they can be had, new, for under $400. I paid $369 or $379 for mine in August.


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Same answer I give to this question almost every time. I'm kind of old school and I like steel and walnut the way it used to be made- not to cast aspersions on the present crop of rimfires in any way.
If it were me (and it isn't), I would be looking for a well cared for Winchester 75 sporter, or 69A or one of the Remington "teen" rifles- 511, 512,513, 514, or a 541T or 504. Well built rifles like these never go out of style, never get any less accurate, retain value fairly well, and are just a joy to shoot and carry in the field. Most of them are close to full sized rifle dimensions so there is the carryover effect to muscle memory when hunting big game with other rifles, IMHO.

Better buy at least two as you will be hooked like the rest of us.

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I like the "teens" too, but have yet to find a really nice one for sale. For nice walnut and blued steel, CZs are hard to beat. The milled steel trigger guards from DIP really class them up, and the total price would still be very close to $500.


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Yeah, the Remington teens and the Win 69A, 75 Sporter and the like are getting harder to find in good shape. Luckily, I find a few of them in "fair" shape and then I have no qualms picking them up cheap and refinishing them. I have a couple 69A's that look like they are close to factory original, though they were made in the 50's and a 75 Sporter that is in great shape (except for a non factory D&T receiver) that I picked up for cheap money at Cabela's.
They are out there, but you have to spend the time to find the good ones. wink
I now have enough .22's to give each of my 3 kids one and each of my 3 grandkids one and still have one in the safe for grand dad when we all go shooting some day.

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The CZ 452 and 455 are the best value for the money. Most will shoot less than an inch, 5 shot groups at 50 yds. with plinker ammo. They will do MUCH better with higher priced ammo.
If you are shooting iron sights, the lux and trainer models will fit the bill.
Want to scope it, the American and Silhouette models have no iron sights. They are set up for scopes only. Though you can mount a scope on the other models.
Check Gun Broker for a 452.
If you do buy a CZ, open your wallet. You CANNOT have just one of them. They multiply in your safe.

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ratsmacker gives some great advice. Whittakers is awesome and they do a great job moving the 452s.

For the money, they're almost impossible to beat.

I had 3 different Rem 504s and if someone gave me another I would throw it at them. Accuracy all over the place, bolt handle broke off on 2, a real shame because they're beautiful guns.

If you want to go a little older, find a Marlin Model 60. The older models I have shot, all shot pretty well.

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My Savage 22 mag is a shooter. I have a Mark 11 that is pretty good and a CZ 452 that is a real shooter.

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would a cz 452 out shoot a 77/22 laminate SS target barrel?

I have the 77/22, but long for a basic walnut / blue gun...


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Picked up my CZ 452 American from Whittakers early last year. Heck of a nice rifle for the money. DIP sells certain replacement parts that helped fine tune the rifle. I would note that the 452 has a pretty high bolt throw that is not an issue but needs to be considered when selecting rings and bases.

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I'd put the CZ 452 or 455 above everything else in that price range.

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Originally Posted by humdinger
would a cz 452 out shoot a 77/22 laminate SS target barrel?

I have the 77/22, but long for a basic walnut / blue gun...


Based on limited experience with 3 each of various CZs and 77/22s, I'd say either will do 3/4" with good hollow point hunting ammo and around 1/2" or better with good SS ammo that they like. Both can benefit from easy-to-do trigger mods. For hunting, it's a wash IMHO, but if teensy groups from the bench is your main requirement, CZs will likely edge the Rugers a mite, and for less money.

I still like the Rugers better, for the handier safety, flush magazines, and availability of stainless. My RSI is as pretty as a kitten, and the full-length stock balances it out perfectly.


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Originally Posted by humdinger
would a cz 452 out shoot a 77/22 laminate SS target barrel?

I have the 77/22, but long for a basic walnut / blue gun...


I've only had experience with two 77/22 heavy barrels, but neither shot quite as well as most CZ's I've had experience with.

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another one to throw in there that tends to fly under the radar these days is the Zastava MP 22 R, it was also imported for a time and sold as the Remington model 5.
for 250.00 it will hang with the others all day.


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I don't know what the price is today on a Biathlon-7-2-KO by Izhmash but I bought mine from a high priced LGS for around $350 about 10 years ago. I added a Bushnell 3X9 scope on it and it is amazingly accurate in a sporter type model. The recess crown on the front of the barrel is about 3/4" deep and the barrel is free floated. Trigger is about 2 lbs. and with bulk ammo it will go .75" at 75 yards and with target grade iammo t will go to .50" at 75 yards providing the presence of a good shooter and the absence of any wind.

The toggle bolt takes some getting used to, and it would be a fantastic gun for plinking and squirrel hunting.

I use it sparingly as most of the jack rabbits I hunt are big time runners and the tricked out 10/22 with 25 shot mags is the ticket.

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Another vote for the RAR.

Not taking anything away from the CZ or the 77/22.....I have shot those as well and enjoy them just fine, but for the money it's hard to beat the American.

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As mentioned earlier, keep an eye on Whitaker's. They sell at a good price, too. Bud's sells at a $60-70 premium from Whitaker's, but allow you to "Make an Offer".


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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.

Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?)
Where do you find magazines? and how much?

What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?



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Originally Posted by humdinger
OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.

Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?)
Where do you find magazines? and how much?



Yes, the 455's have 11mm dovetails. I use Burris Signature rimfire rings. They come with clamps for both 11mm and 3/8" dovetails.

The 455 magazines can be ordered directly from CZ's website as well as numerous other places. If you're local gun shop sells CZ's, they can order the magazines as well.

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Originally Posted by humdinger
OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.

Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?)
Where do you find magazines? and how much?

What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?



Don't sell until you try the 455 first.

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CZ makes a damn fine .22, also seen a couple Savage Mark IIs that will shoot right with anything and You may also want to consider the Zastava CZ-99(better known around here as the Remington Model 5)...


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Originally Posted by humdinger
OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.

Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?)
Where do you find magazines? and how much?

What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?



Unless you need the money to finance the CZ, ( my usual dilemma), I'd hang onto that 77/22. The older ones have slip-fit barrels that can be replaced with high-end aftermarket ones pretty easily and, given the current marketing mindset at Ruger, they could get the axe at any time, instantly increasing the value or yours.

Just a thought.


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I have no interest in this ad, nor do I know the seller but am simply passing along what appears to be a decent deal on a CZ 455.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/22-model-455-cz-american.3892129/

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OK guys... im toying with buying a 455 and selling my heavy barrel 77/22.

Are 455's the ones that need special scope mounts? (metric?)
Where do you find magazines? and how much?

What should I sell a very clean SS target grey barrel laminate stock 77/22 for?



Unless you need the money to finance the CZ, ( my usual dilemma), I'd hang onto that 77/22. The older ones have slip-fit barrels that can be replaced with high-end aftermarket ones pretty easily and, given the current marketing mindset at Ruger, they could get the axe at any time, instantly increasing the value or yours.

Just a thought.


Mines at least 15 years old so is that an slip fit? Can a person look that up by serial number?


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If your m77/22 is 15 years old it is a slip fit model. As I recall, November of 2009 is when the change over began. I can't recall the serial # range of the change over but a search on rimfire central or ruger forums should yield your answer if someone on here doesn't chime in with the info.


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The slip-fits have a clamping v-block like a 10/22 that holds the barrel in.


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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99

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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99


Enabler!!!!

I just bought one and a spare mag.

OK guys... what kind of scope rings do I need for a 452?
Burris ring?
Leupold Rings?
I have a couple 2x7's to put on this, but I may spring for a Leopold rim fire scope to really match this. (4x or 2x7)

My 2x7's are an older gloss redfield tracker, a gloss leupold vx1or2, and I may have a mmatte black 2x7 also.

Now that you have made me buy it... help me accessorize please.


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CZ 452 in stock Whittakers as of 1-15-16 $369.99


Enabler!!!!

I just bought one and a spare mag.

OK guys... what kind of scope rings do I need for a 452?
Burris ring?
Leupold Rings?
I have a couple 2x7's to put on this, but I may spring for a Leopold rim fire scope to really match this. (4x or 2x7)

My 2x7's are an older gloss redfield tracker, a gloss leupold vx1or2, and I may have a mmatte black 2x7 also.

Now that you have made me buy it... help me accessorize please.


Go over to the CZ forum at rimfirecentral. They have a sticky about nothing but mounts. There is a sponsor there that sells an adapter so you can use the Burris Signature Zee rings if you want and several other options.

There's also a sticky about trigger improvement options. I did the Yo-Dave kit for $20 and I'm very pleased.

The 2-7's would be wonderful for hunting but I like a little more magnification to wring every bit of accuracy out at 50 yards. I like to be able to center the cross hairs on a bullet hole. I use the Leupold VX2 4-12 AO fine duplex on mine. I've shot flies off the paper at 50 yards.

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I used 13mm Leupold rings for mounting a 3-9EFR on a 453. Worked very well. The EFR had plenty of magnification and was compact enough not to overpower the little rifle. A 4x is enough for most squirrel shooting, but a little more is helpful at 50 yards and beyond.

CZ dovetail sizes are all over the place. Best to measure your rifle to be sure. When I used to hang out on RFC, it seemed that some of the boys liked to put as much crap between the receiver and scope as possible, but I think simple is better, and looks better too.

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WOW - a Vaver sight!! Never thought I'd ever see one of those again.

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Very cool rig. I wouldn't trade my 1935-vintage Pre-A for anything- and it doesn't have the goodies that one has, and I paid a bit more than that for it. (It's bog stock, standard weight nickel steel barrel, with a Lyman 48/globe front and a 10x Fecker, and will group 5 into 3/8"@50 yards, premo ammo, with enough 1/4" groups to make me smile a lot.)


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I bought a brand new CZ 452 Lux last year. I haven't shot it as much as I want to, but it's comfortable and seems to shoot well. I want to do a trigger job on it, but ordering parts out of the US is a pain for us it seems.

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I bought a brand new CZ 452 Lux last year. I haven't shot it as much as I want to, but it's comfortable and seems to shoot well. I want to do a trigger job on it, but ordering parts out of the US is a pain for us it seems.

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Sam, have you looked in the CZ forum at rimfirecentral? There is a poor man's trigger job and info about the Yo-Dave kit. The Yo-Dave is $20 and the poor man's used feeler gauges and epoxy. I did the Yo-Dave and was very pleased. My 452 Lux now has a trigger about 2 lbs and very close in feel to my Anschutz trigger.

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Okay, so what did Solheim (OP) end up buying? wink



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I'm thinking ruger american

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I bought a brand new CZ 452 Lux last year. I haven't shot it as much as I want to, but it's comfortable and seems to shoot well. I want to do a trigger job on it, but ordering parts out of the US is a pain for us it seems.

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Sam, have you looked in the CZ forum at rimfirecentral? There is a poor man's trigger job and info about the Yo-Dave kit. The Yo-Dave is $20 and the poor man's used feeler gauges and epoxy. I did the Yo-Dave and was very pleased. My 452 Lux now has a trigger about 2 lbs and very close in feel to my Anschutz trigger.


Even the Yo-Dave kit is tough to get across the border. US Customs stops anything firearms related it seems. Odd that Canada had no issue with the importation, its the export that's the problem.

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I'm thinking ruger american
Fer gosh durn sakes ... will you just TRY the Zastava you're stealing from Cabelas?

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That will be the first one on the list...

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I would get a CZ 455 and enjoy it. If you need uber later, then pop on a Lilja barrel.

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Originally Posted by Gaviidae_Esq
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I'm thinking ruger american
Fer gosh durn sakes ... will you just TRY the Zastava you're stealing from Cabelas?

Those Zastava's shoot and look pretty darn good, so does that Rem model 5.


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I've not been impressed at all in the looks of the Zastava's I've handled. I do hear they shoot good but fit and finish is bottom of the barrel.

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I bought a brand new CZ 452 Lux last year. I haven't shot it as much as I want to, but it's comfortable and seems to shoot well. I want to do a trigger job on it, but ordering parts out of the US is a pain for us it seems.

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Sam, have you looked in the CZ forum at rimfirecentral? There is a poor man's trigger job and info about the Yo-Dave kit. The Yo-Dave is $20 and the poor man's used feeler gauges and epoxy. I did the Yo-Dave and was very pleased. My 452 Lux now has a trigger about 2 lbs and very close in feel to my Anschutz trigger.


Even the Yo-Dave kit is tough to get across the border. US Customs stops anything firearms related it seems. Odd that Canada had no issue with the importation, its the export that's the problem.

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My Yo-Dave trigger kit came from Dave Diana, PO Box752, Coombs, BC VOR 1MO.

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Cruise the pawn shops. A couple of years ago, I picked up a really nice Remington 511 (same gun as the Junior target except a sporter stock and no Redfield receiver sight) for $40 + tax. Seems as everyone wanted semi-autos and high capacity. It shoots lights out with glass and I'm going to put a receiver sight on it for Granddaughter to use in 4H.

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I've not been impressed at all in the looks of the Zastava's I've handled. I do hear they shoot good but fit and finish is bottom of the barrel.

the bluing on mine is highly polished and deep blue. but this is the remington No5,


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Originally Posted by JimHnSTL
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I've not been impressed at all in the looks of the Zastava's I've handled. I do hear they shoot good but fit and finish is bottom of the barrel.

the bluing on mine is highly polished and deep blue. but this is the remington No5,


The bluing has been the best part of the ones I've seen. Our local GS has a few of them. I wanted to get one because of their accuracy reputation but couldn't stoop to it when I saw them. The stocks look like they were made by 6 year olds and the inletting and checkering by retarded 6 year olds. The mags were floppy and poorly fitted and the safety was amateurish at best.

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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
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I've not been impressed at all in the looks of the Zastava's I've handled. I do hear they shoot good but fit and finish is bottom of the barrel.

the bluing on mine is highly polished and deep blue. but this is the remington No5,


The bluing has been the best part of the ones I've seen. Our local GS has a few of them. I wanted to get one because of their accuracy reputation but couldn't stoop to it when I saw them. The stocks look like they were made by 6 year olds and the inletting and checkering by retarded 6 year olds. The mags were floppy and poorly fitted and the safety was amateurish at best.


Tell us how you really feel ;-)

Off on a tangent... I just got a ruger american rimfire and a whittiker cz 422 and both are nice rifles. The trigger pull was better on the ruger. The safety is stiff as hades on the cz too.

I cant wait to get these scoped up and shoot when it warm enough to really compare them, but that Ruger is very comparable to the CZ for a lot less money...

I hope the CZ wins...



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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
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I've not been impressed at all in the looks of the Zastava's I've handled. I do hear they shoot good but fit and finish is bottom of the barrel.

the bluing on mine is highly polished and deep blue. but this is the remington No5,


The bluing has been the best part of the ones I've seen. Our local GS has a few of them. I wanted to get one because of their accuracy reputation but couldn't stoop to it when I saw them. The stocks look like they were made by 6 year olds and the inletting and checkering by retarded 6 year olds. The mags were floppy and poorly fitted and the safety was amateurish at best.


i have not seen the newer ones you speak of, but for the price i guess one could buy it for the blued barreled action and find a boydes stock to replace the other, I'll have to get out and look at one of the newer ones first hand.


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So Solheim and I roll into East Grand Forks Cabelas with our hockey daughters so he can try to buy a .22 ... That fuddermucker gets out of the place trading a benjamin and returning a pair of used long johns for his Zastava CZ99 and an apology for "not being able to to better for you Mr. Solheim".

This dude is Shrapnel East + uber ... I. [bleep]. You. Not.

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Originally Posted by SamSteele
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I bought a brand new CZ 452 Lux last year. I haven't shot it as much as I want to, but it's comfortable and seems to shoot well. I want to do a trigger job on it, but ordering parts out of the US is a pain for us it seems.

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Sam, have you looked in the CZ forum at rimfirecentral? There is a poor man's trigger job and info about the Yo-Dave kit. The Yo-Dave is $20 and the poor man's used feeler gauges and epoxy. I did the Yo-Dave and was very pleased. My 452 Lux now has a trigger about 2 lbs and very close in feel to my Anschutz trigger.


Even the Yo-Dave kit is tough to get across the border. US Customs stops anything firearms related it seems. Odd that Canada had no issue with the importation, its the export that's the problem.

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I recently purchased the Yo Dave. Zero issues with shipping. The product is excellent. Huge improvement in the trigger. Don't hesitate to buy a 452 or get the Yo Dave kit if you need it.

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Originally Posted by m1919
Another vote for the RAR.

Not taking anything away from the CZ or the 77/22.....I have shot those as well and enjoy them just fine, but for the money it's hard to beat the American.


That's the route I'd take as well, as long as the target shooting is of the "informal" variety. You won't be winning any rimfire shoots with the RAR, but it's perfectly balanced and carries excellent in the field...

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