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"I am confident using it on North American big game,” says Shockey.  Did you see his smile?! Smells like he got paid a lot of money to smile and say how "shocked" he was as the poor penned bison struggled to get up again.... Yea, it looked about as exciting as shooting a cow in a pasture to me. Agreed.
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When you manually have to draw the string hold it and release weather, compound,recurve or long bow that's what I consider bow hunting
Crossbow is boarder line
That thing is an air rifle I was just musing... not pointing fingers. I hate crossbows and compounds once I learned the joy of the recurve. But i still barely can use a compound and use a crossbow a lot due to issues... Don't much care what others think either. The guns firing arrows have been around for a LONG time. NOt saying they should be put in archery but just musing how far archery has come. Elitists would say my recurve isn't traditional either..... I don't think this is an extension of how far archery has come because it has nothing to do with archery. I'm not a crossbow fan but a crossbow DOES have a bow string and limbs as do a recurve, longbow and compound. This air rifle has neither, so it is not archery. If we get some arrows to fly from a mortar tube, is that "archery"?
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I travel and hunt by air way to much to pack around a high pressure tank. Those folks that hunt from home on on there own property would be all set with his stated 8 full power shots. Night pig hunting over a feeder would be amazingly fun and functional with this!
I'm sure you can use a pump- just like the pre-charged air rifles use in lieu of the HP tank. Might take a while to pump up. Ed Brown made some type of rifle arrow shooter if I recall or maybe it was Brown Precision. Used a charge to shoot an arrow out of a barrel?? Saw them at SHOT one year.
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One press release I read stated that it comes with 3 "full sized" 375gr arrows. Did not mention if that was with a broadhead. http://howldb.com/p/05t3pm The broadhead: Rage Krossbow Kore
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Seems like an air powered harpoon gun. Might as well launch them with a 12ga blank and be done with it.
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This is what Crossman is pushing Based on the Pioneer’s powerplant, we believe it is legal for use in those
seasons in which Air Powered Guns are eligible.
Based on the projectile, comparable performance, range, and superior
safety aspects, we also believe the Pioneer is a suitable alternative for
archery hunters. The language used to define Archery focuses on
minimum force and cutting diameters, both of which this product meets.
We welcome opportunities to work with legislators, wildlife officials and
consumers to secure its approval for use during crossbow and general
archery hunting seasons.
Hands-on demonstrations can be arranged upon request If you believe there’s room in the woods for something that moves an arrow at 450 FPS, that shoots straighter and is more accurate but isn’t driven by a string, and is safer and easier to operate, then please contact your legislators and wildlife officials. Tell them you want to use the Pioneer Airbow in a crossbow or archery season. Download this informational packet and get it into their hands by email, snail mail or personal delivery. With your help, we can introduce more people to hunting with airguns and with the Airbow, we can bring back those who may have left it.
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They'll sell a bunch of them in states that will allow them as they are in the price range of new, higher end bows.
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I see one good use for this ....killing walking dead zombies
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This is what Crossman is pushing Based on the Pioneer’s powerplant, we believe it is legal for use in those
seasons in which Air Powered Guns are eligible.
Based on the projectile, comparable performance, range, and superior
safety aspects, we also believe the Pioneer is a suitable alternative for
archery hunters. The language used to define Archery focuses on
minimum force and cutting diameters, both of which this product meets.
We welcome opportunities to work with legislators, wildlife officials and
consumers to secure its approval for use during crossbow and general
archery hunting seasons.
Hands-on demonstrations can be arranged upon request If you believe there’s room in the woods for something that moves an arrow at 450 FPS, that shoots straighter and is more accurate but isn’t driven by a string, and is safer and easier to operate, then please contact your legislators and wildlife officials. Tell them you want to use the Pioneer Airbow in a crossbow or archery season. Download this informational packet and get it into their hands by email, snail mail or personal delivery. With your help, we can introduce more people to hunting with airguns and with the Airbow, we can bring back those who may have left it. Bunch of crap. Totally. But then if it were allowed for handicap issues, I'd have zero issue with that. I"ve a soft spot for folks that can't do what we normally can.
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Seems like an air powered harpoon gun. Might as well launch them with a 12ga blank and be done with it. Thats been done back in the 70s around here for grins.....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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The people replying that it is the same as or might as well as use a firearm cartridge obviously don't get it.
It's a cool invention. It is an air arrow gun. Crossman is in the air gun business. Why would they start using 12 ga. shells?
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Bunch of crap. Totally. But then if it were allowed for handicap issues, I'd have zero issue with that. I"ve a soft spot for folks that can't do what we normally can. Agreed
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The people replying that it is the same as or might as well as use a firearm cartridge obviously don't get it.
It's a cool invention. It is an air arrow gun. Crossman is in the air gun business. Why would they start using 12 ga. shells? No one said that... just musing it could be done, and actually has been done.... I've seen a lot done over the years... shooting deer with a dove load where you cut the shell and tape it back together and it acts like a slug... take most powder out of a shell and put the wad back in and seat an arrow down in the wad adn shoot...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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