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SMKs worked well for me

Nice shooting!!!

Yeah no [bleep]. Plus one!

I've heard it's easy with a Big .33 though..........................

What a long-winded, stupid, fakhat.



Dave

I've had Vais brakes on 3 rifles that are/were chambered in severely over-bore cartridges, and it works/worked like a charm. I can set my current fire-breather in the rear bag and the front pedestal rest and just touch the trigger, allowing it to free recoil. It moves about an inch backward. My current rifle is rather heavy which also helps dampen recoil, but, even with all the recoil reduction measures I have taken I can't see the impact of the bullet.

Hey 'dood! Thanks for the info. I'm reluctantly conceding that it's gonna be at least borderline whether it'll "show my shots". I did speak to DE about this, and EDGE brass availability. Plenty of Bertram bra$$ so that's good. He did state that with his EDGE builds, typically @ 30" plus brake, IF the shooter is solidly in-line with the rifle's recoil axis, the shots can usually be seen. If the shooter is lying at an angle (which I do) then typically the rifle recoils too much to the right to see the shot.

Hoping to talk to Mr. Holland about his brake next. It scored well in the staying on target category in that test that was linked to earlier.

My understanding of the Vais is that there's ports on the underside, making shooting from prone a problem. True?

Jeff,just a thought,you could put a towel on the ground under the brake and that should stop most of the dust/debris problem.

I could bring a blanket and have a picnic!

I've never fired a braked rifle. I have NO IDEA what the magnitude of the physics are up there. I'm just listening to what folks say at this point.



Modifying hardened electric motor shafts on the lathe today........NOT a picnic. Beats yesterday, which was putting a temporary fix on my shop roof, which had a tree fall on it in a windstorm a couple days ago. Luckily missed the trusses and just crunched plywood. I could USE a picnic!

The amount of dust and debris a brake can throw is surprising the first time. A friend fired his STW from the tailgate. The blast took out the entire tail light assembly, not just the red lens.

I've had a VAIS Brake of two different rifles (1) Lazzeroni Patriot and (2) Lazzeroni HellCat and both rifels were lighter than Lazzeroni normally makes.

The HellCat is a short .375 that will run a 300gr Nosler, without any pressure problems, up past 2570 fps. It was fairly mild to shoot and not noisy at all. When I took to Africa the PH wasn't keen on it and I told him if he could the difference in noise, with brake on and off, with his back turned I'd take it off and the put the cap on. The rifle wore the brake for the full safari.

There are probably other brakes that may reduce recoil a little more but the noise and blast back into your face (and scope lens) isn't worth it.

Jeff get the DE brake, I have a 300 RUM with a vias brake and trust me you do not want to shoot that brake prone on the ground. You do not want holes on the bottom. You will not have any noise problems with a 30" barrel

John, I'd say that's the plan at this point. I also like that it's sold as a blank and therefore is relatively cheap.

Should be ordering the action this week. Keep hoping a donor SPS will appear locally but unless I went with blued, no luck. I want stainless.

I ordered the barrel @ 30" but fluted as if it finishes at 28"..... so, still planning 28" but at least 30" will be an option.

I had a Vias and loved it. The bottom ports are not ideal for shooting prone. I just put a precision armament M-41 on a 8.5lb 308. I can see bullet impact through the scope on 10x at 100yards. Their M-11 is also supposed to be very good and lacks the 360deg. ports.
Precision Armament uses a DLC coating on their brakes and it's phenomenally durable and easy to clean. The M41 has three baffles. The first and nearest the muzzle is pitched slightly forward, the next two baffles are perpendicular to the bore. This brake is a beautifully machined and finished.

A 30" barrel blank can Finnish at 29" plus brake, not 30" plus brake.

Darrell may be at the SHOT show this week.