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Social conservatives have been pushing an agenda of god in the schools, courthouses, etc. I cannot abide by that. It degrades BOTH the concepts of God, and of State.

By the way, I have my own spiritual beliefs which I am not interested in sharing around here. WAY too much childish behavior around here for that. Not blaming any if the posters on this thread, but if I " go there", I'll never hear the end of it.

You guys are comical in your fear of Obama. He's not gonna go after your guns. The Dems have learned their lesson on that one. But after 8 years of ineptitude from GWB, and with an old, tired McCain and a freaky Palin as the ONLY alternative... Well... Call me all the names you want, but *I* voted for the better overall ticket, period. If the repub's had fielded a decent ticket, or if we HAD MORE REAL CHOICES, (aaargh!!) it would be different.

Right now, if McCain was prez, he'd be acting like a deer in the headlights, blustering, alienating congress, and pushing a "stimulus package" very similar in substance to the crap Obama is pushing.

Face it. We had two bad choices. Obama was the better one, and not by a little bit!

I really like the EMP, it works great and Steve is an awesome gunsmith easy to deal with titanium is a bonus

Center shot rifles blast tamer brake. Effective and no concussion to the shooter.

Higbean, one of these days I will indeed get around to actually firing a rifle.

jowens,



Can you elaborate on what you are saying? Are you talking about a brand or something else?

Just ordered the barrel for my Big .33 build. Brake is a potential lead time item so that's next. Advice? I'd say Holland, Vais, and DE are my leading candidates and if I ordered it this second, it'd be DE. But interested in any experience-based opinions. Thanks.

It MUST do great from prone. No dust storms allowed.

I suppress the need for a brake, literally.

being able to see my hits/misses, there's the real benefit I'm looking forward to

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being able to see my hits/misses, there's the real benefit I'm looking forward to
Your gonna be disappointed then cause that ain't gonna happen

If you're shooting steel targets that are "fresh" you will see the splash in your scope. After a few shots,go up and spray paint the steel target again and PRESTO! you will see the splashes again. Re-apply paint as needed.

It's not rocket science.

dvdegeorge,



What kind of brake have you used? We don't want to use that brand.

No need I don't live on pretend and make believe but feel free to keep on with you're program
The rifles I've shot braked were 338 Win and 7STW were not mine so I can't speak to the make of the brake but neither tamed muzzle jump enough to to see bullet impact thru the scope.... I wouldn't suffer a brake especially on a hunting rig
You boys from Oregon carry on and enjoy your funny banter

I got it. We have an Easterner trying to tell us, who have actually experienced seeing impacts from something as large as .375 wildcat, telling us it can't happen. I made the brake and tuned it for the rifle and load.

Dvd, plenty of folks who shoot these things say that the proper brake does allow you to see bullet impact as long as your shooting position was solid.

All I'm doing is researching this; I'm not "saying" anything myself, so no need to get your dander up.

Thanks for the data point that you've seen it NOT be the case. I'm not discounting that. As I say, I'm listening here. Thanks.

A brake on a big 338 in my experience when shooting a 300 grain bullet near or above 2800 FPS will not allow you to see the impact. My barrel is 30" long and that allows the exit pressure to be lower and the noise is not that bad. The brake allows one to shoot relaxed and thus more accurately on average.

I have a .375./.416 Rem Mag with a 28" barrel. The rifle weighs eleven pounds. When I first made the brake it pushed the barrel down when firing it offhand. With some tuning I can see the impact because it pushes straight back, now. I guess I cheat, though. It also has, in addition to the 1 1/4" recoil pad, a 1/2" hydraulic travel shock absorber. I hold it like a BB gun when firing it. One can fire this rifle thirty or forty shots at a session if one wants without even a bruise.

Edited to add:
With 98 grains of RL22 it will propel a 300 grains Sierra at 2,990 feet per second or using 88 grains of IMR4320 a Barnes TTSX 250 at 3,185fps.

Ken, well, the devil lies in the details as usual. My LR shooting happens in relatively fresh clear-cuts in the Coast Range. It's virtually impossible to find a spot that has a reasonably accessible spot to shoot from AND an accessible target location without violating the laws about shooting from or across the (logging) roads. My current spot has a 1/4 mile hike in, and the plates are cross-canyon, with about a 1/2 mile hike to where they are, from an entirely different logging road. So repainting them is a whole little project in itself.

Then, bare dirt is very rare. Everything is covered in a layer of forest duff. That duff swallows up bullet impacts like you wouldn't believe. No puff of dust, rarely a visible disturbed spot; if you don't see the moment of impact it's unlikely you'll be able to discern where the miss landed.

Plus we have no rocks to speak of poking up above the duff. That's a bummer. I love shooting at rocks.

So, I'm really hoping the brake lets me see my hits/misses as that would be a game changer for me.

No. But it's an expedition in its own right just getting to them. Which is unfortunate for sure. A lot of guys just ignore the laws about this stuff but I shoot up there enough that I don't want to do that if that makes sense.

ACTUALLY...... what occurred to me after we spoke of this earlier, is that I should hang a couple plates over on the side of the canyon I'm shooting FROM as well. That way, I could hike into either side, paint the plates on that side, and shoot towards the other side. Alternate. It'd be nice to switch the prevailing wind, too, which is always R > L from where I normally shoot.

It's a bummer to hear that a brake won't show me my misses on a Big .33. I'm hoping John is wrong or at least that maybe there's a brake that WILL. Have not ordered a brake yet.

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It's a bummer to hear that a brake won't show me my misses on a Big .33. I'm hoping John is wrong or at least that maybe there's a brake that WILL. Have not ordered a brake yet.

Sounds like big fun. Can't wait.

Side note, it's cool that the crusty old SMK still reigns supreme in one bore size.

Sounds like big fun. Can't wait.

Side note, it's cool that the crusty old SMK still reigns supreme in one bore size.

SMKs worked well for me

Maybe. The "duff" on the ground here maybe has to be experienced to be believed. We have moss growing on our moss here.

It would swallow hits from my 300WM with 200-grainers without a trace.

Seeing hits has always been a big part of the brake sales pitch and I'm still hoping to find one that will do that. I'd gladly eat a little more recoil to get it.

John or others, where would you put the line on this? Would a big braked .30 stay on target?

I could bring a blanket and have a picnic!

I've never fired a braked rifle. I have NO IDEA what the magnitude of the physics are up there. I'm just listening to what folks say at this point.



Modifying hardened electric motor shafts on the lathe today........NOT a picnic. Beats yesterday, which was putting a temporary fix on my shop roof, which had a tree fall on it in a windstorm a couple days ago. Luckily missed the trusses and just crunched plywood. I could USE a picnic!

I ordered the barrel @ 30" but fluted as if it finishes at 28"..... so, still planning 28" but at least 30" will be an option.

Hoping to talk to Mr. Holland about his brake next. It scored well in the staying on target category in that test that was linked to earlier.