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Today I called a bullet company I never heard of before. The webpage is http://www.alcobullets.com/ The guy has 6.5 bullets from 80 grains to 160 grains. He claims a BC of .829for the 160. I figured if they are even close I will love them. He charged less than $50 for fifty bullets including shipping and handling. He said they will open up clear down to 2,500 feet per second. I think that will get me to 700 yards !I'm still waiting for the trigger for my big 6.5 so it will be awhile before I give a report on them.
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What chambering will you be using?
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Very Interesting - Thanks for posting!
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slm9s, What chambering will you be using? I necked down a .300 RUM and pushed the shoulder back about .100" to create a longer neck. It holds 109 grains of powder to the top of the neck. It holds 101 grains with a Barnes LRX 127 grainer. It will push a Nosler AB 140 to at least 3,400 feet per second. I have not pushed it to see where pressure signs start. Ben at Hornady named it 6.5RUMLN. After the .26 Nosler came out I discovered mine is only 6% larger. But they use a short neck, so I would not use that cartridge.
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That 160 VLD will probably take a 1-7 twist!
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I'm hoping to make it work with an 8" twist. We will find out with they get here.
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Today I called a bullet company I never heard of before. The webpage is http://www.alcobullets.com/ The guy has 6.5 bullets from 80 grains to 160 grains. He claims a BC of .829for the 160. I figured if they are even close I will love them. He charged less than $50 for fifty bullets including shipping and handling. He said they will open up clear down to 2,500 feet per second. I think that will get me to 700 yards !I'm still waiting for the trigger for my big 6.5 so it will be awhile before I give a report on them. They will open down to 2500fps? or 1500? David
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Today I called a bullet company I never heard of before. The webpage is http://www.alcobullets.com/ The guy has 6.5 bullets from 80 grains to 160 grains. He claims a BC of .829for the 160. I figured if they are even close I will love them. He charged less than $50 for fifty bullets including shipping and handling. He said they will open up clear down to 2,500 feet per second. I think that will get me to 700 yards !I'm still waiting for the trigger for my big 6.5 so it will be awhile before I give a report on them. Color me skeptical on that BC claim
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Color me skeptical on that BC claim That's what struck me too. I went on the website, there's nothing in writing on BCs, just "Call for details."
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I was skeptical on Noslers ABLR BC claims and it turned out to be rightly so!
This looks like either a bullet that is so long that it will be hard to stabilize or voodoo BC- maybe it has little vanes that pop out after it leaves the muzzle??
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Today I called a bullet company I never heard of before. The webpage is http://www.alcobullets.com/ The guy has 6.5 bullets from 80 grains to 160 grains. He claims a BC of .829for the 160. I figured if they are even close I will love them. He charged less than $50 for fifty bullets including shipping and handling. He said they will open up clear down to 2,500 feet per second. I think that will get me to 700 yards !I'm still waiting for the trigger for my big 6.5 so it will be awhile before I give a report on them. They will open down to 2500fps? or 1500? David ^^^^ what he said, Expanding down to 2500fps is not a good choice for a LRH bullet IMHO.
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Canazes9, They will open down to 2500fps? or 1500? He said 2,500 because that is the number I asked about. With a starting velocity of 3,250 feet per second it arrives at 700 yards with slightly more than that. Right now 700 yards is a very long range to me. He didn't volunteer much. I had to ask about anything I wanted to know. Except he did start talking about drag racing in the old days. Something I did about fifty years ago. I went to rifle barrel twist site and discovered it theoretically will stabilize in an 8" twist.
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How long is it? A 160gr 6.5 is going to be pretty damn chubby if it wants to fit in just about any mag, isn't it?
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cast10K, I didn't get the third digit, but I did hear him say 1.5?" When I checked for twist, I used 1.55". It about a 1/16" longer than the ELD-X 143.
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How long is it? A 160gr 6.5 is going to be pretty damn chubby.... Long or chubby, you can't have both. That's what she said....
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6.5mm 160GR RBT-AT $81.00 100Ct BC=0.829 OAL 1.519 1:7.5" twist
This is the Info i got from him when i was talking to him about the 160gr VLD aluminum tipped bullets. For referance the 140gr hybrid berger is only 1.407" long.
So my question is why do you need a 160gr VLD with a (static) BC (not tested)BC of 0.829, when you can use a 140gr berger vld at 1/2 the cost per bullet? Your only shooting to 700yards that isnt going to make much difference. If you were trying to shoot say 1500yards yes i could see the need for this.
If your shooting for Extreme Long range Hunting you need a bullet that will open and expand at lower FPS, still have enough engery to kill and have a high BC to carry you that far.
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6.5mm 160GR RBT-AT $81.00 100Ct BC=0.829 OAL 1.519 1:7.5" twist
This is the Info i got from him when i was talking to him about the 160gr VLD aluminum tipped bullets. For referance the 140gr hybrid berger is only 1.407" long.
So my question is why do you need a 160gr VLD with a (static) BC (not tested)BC of 0.829, when you can use a 140gr berger vld at 1/2 the cost per bullet? Your only shooting to 700yards that isnt going to make much difference. If you were trying to shoot say 1500yards yes i could see the need for this.
If your shooting for Extreme Long range Hunting you need a bullet that will open and expand at lower FPS, still have enough engery to kill and have a high BC to carry you that far.
The BC of this boutique bullet will not be significantly higher than Bergers BC because the mass is the same. Maybe not be as good. Been through this scnerio before.
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jwp475,
You tried these? What velocity did you get?
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I would try Marshalls Matrix 150gr VLD before these things. But that is just me.
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