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For the Arizona shooters... the shoot Bill Poole mentions above is an outstanding way to practice with your hunting rigs. Check out the link. We have one on February 27th. Hope to see you there.
Mike
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I would say it is an order of magnitude more difficult to shoot a decent group with a lightweight hunting style rifle from a field position than it is for a serious competition rifle in any of the above sports. That is, a guy who can put a 10-shot group in the 10-ring at 300yds in 70-seconds with an iron sighted AR-15 using a coat and sling will have trouble hitting the vital area of a deer target at that distance more than half the time firing slowly 1 shot at a time using a hunting rifle resting on sticks or a backpack.
You would be wrong, laughably so. A competitive Service Rifle shooter has to shoot 9 ring (13in) or better OFFHAND at 200yd with irons and a 4.5# trigger. The best shooters, like Bernosky, are cleaning a 7in target at 200yd OFFHAND. A shooting coat adds about 20% to a good shooters score. It helps but it ain't a quantum leap like you're pretending. Bill's not a pretender. There are past Camp Perry Cup match winners and a past US Palma team member listed in those hunting shoot results. Not at the top I would add.
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Seems apples and oranges here. 5,10, 20 shots for grouping in a short period of time is an entirely different ball of wax from a 'first shot in vitals hit'. For hunting, if I can't do it with a light or appropriately light rifle, I'm not gonna go get a heavier one, just to see if it'll help. I'm gonna practice more, load better, focus on fundamentals, and improvise/learn ways to run THAT gun better for the first shot. 1-3 shots, any accurate rifle is an accurate rifle, regardless of weight. You just need to spend more time behind them, cuz they're less forgiving to the trigger nut....but it ain't often the rifle. I'm not getting into experiences of who has shot what or done what.
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Very Nice Fantastic Pic Jerry All except that wet squirrel at the bottom trying to get his last bite of lunch...
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I appreciate the feedback and those keeping this thread alive. Kills on steel and critters are even better.
Next time I'm in PHX, I plan to hit that shoot. Looks like a hoot.
For longer shots, what are you fellas using at the toe? A standard bag, wadded up jacket, or what?
For what it's worth Monkey FFukking A Jug off the Kifaru is almost like cheating. No toe bag.
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