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What's a Montana SA stock weigh? They vary, 24 - 25.5 oz's.
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Has anyone seen any pics of the bottom "metal" and/or DBM?
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The Montana in 6.5 CR is much more interesting, IMO.
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It'll be really interesting to see how the new Tikka compares. But funny that a plastic stock and mag is now OK on a Kimber.
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Man if the expensive Montana needs all those surgeries to "Get Well" imagine what the cheap one will need! Total and complete reconstructive surgery.
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Man if the expensive Montana needs all those surgeries to "Get Well" imagine what the cheap one will need! Total and complete reconstructive surgery.
LOL You were just never good with shooting a lightweight rifle, that is all. Didn't it take you like 3-4 Kimber Montana's to prove that?
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Man if the expensive Montana needs all those surgeries to "Get Well" imagine what the cheap one will need! Total and complete reconstructive surgery.
LOL You were just never good with shooting a lightweight rifle, that is all. Didn't it take you like 3-4 Kimber Montana's to prove that? And this is why most complain about their accuracy with kimbers. Co workers had major butt-hurt, buyers remorse until they started holding on. Now you couldn't buy them for double their price after they figured it out.
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Man if the expensive Montana needs all those surgeries to "Get Well" imagine what the cheap one will need! Total and complete reconstructive surgery.
LOL You were just never good with shooting a lightweight rifle, that is all. Didn't it take you like 3-4 Kimber Montana's to prove that? Have we ever shot together or seen me shoot and you inferred this from experience? I have shot many many lightweight custom rifles very well to know that the Montanas I had sucked
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Man if the expensive Montana needs all those surgeries to "Get Well" imagine what the cheap one will need! Total and complete reconstructive surgery.
LOL You were just never good with shooting a lightweight rifle, that is all. Didn't it take you like 3-4 Kimber Montana's to prove that? Have we ever shot together or seen me shoot and you inferred this from experience? I have shot many many lightweight custom rifles very well to know that the Montanas I had sucked Lotsa others don't have any problems with them. Must be you then?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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And lots of others do! Hence the checklist "post" on how to fix a Montana. Ever see another checklist to fix other rifle makes in particular?
I had 2 and 2 of my other friends had one each. 3 270 WSm's and 1 325 WSM.
If it is me then why do I not have a problem with the RAR Rifles inc Nula Tikka t3 ultralight etc.
All I know the 2 I had (both 270 WSM's) sucked big time.
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A 22-250 with a 8" twist horns me up to say the least.
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My list for my 270 WSM was mount a scope, torque the bolts, and kiss a SMK. Shot fine.
But I still didnt like it.
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Ours shoot well too. We shoot the little ones though. I had a 270wsm it shot fine and I didn't like it either.
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Those guns are going to beat the hell out of the market. I'm stoked!
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I would have paid a couple hundred more than the Montana asking price for a composite stocked version with a DBM or floor plate. Just never been a fan of blind mags, even if other configurations were a little heavier, it would still be a light rifle. If the normal Montana stock weighs 24oz, I'm trying to figure out how just switching the stock could make the hunter could weigh 22oz more (6.5 CM published weights for both). Maybe the action is not as trim on the hunter?
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I would have paid a couple hundred more than the Montana asking price for a composite stocked version with a DBM or floor plate. Just never been a fan of blind mags, even if other configurations were a little heavier, it would still be a light rifle. If the normal Montana stock weighs 24oz, I'm trying to figure out how just switching the stock could make the hunter could weigh 22oz more (6.5 CM published weights for both). Maybe the action is not as trim on the hunter? I asked Kimber about the blind magazine years ago. It was a necessity to maximize the strength of the kevlar stock and therefore any style of magazine would have weakened the stock. As far as the extra weight, some 22 oz. that could be attributed to: 1. the synthetic stock just weighing more, 2. some metal support imbedded in the stock and 3. the DM assembly overall weight. Some additional reports I'm sure will be forthcoming in the near future. Now with the Hunter, buyers have options.
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A Montana with a plastic stock would make for a nice donor barreled action if McMillan would make a hunting stock for the Montana. I don't know why they don't, as they already have the inlet program for the Kimber tactical rifle. Seems a donor Montana is the answer.
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They shouldn't have left out the 223
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I guess I'm a little surprised they can sell these cheaper than the Classic. Walnut must cost them more than I thought.
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