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You alaka guys are real sensitive aren't you.
You're whining that you may have to pay taxes to pay for your schools and snow plows, your oil money is running low, and you have a governor is more concerned about funding the state than getting re-elected.
You may think you're isolated up there, but Walker and your legislative system (people that you voted in) has found a way to fund the services that you use. I think you're politicians got smart and looked at how the other states fund themselves.
Paying taxes suck and you're getting a bunch of new ones similar to other states. Other states didn't have oil money to carry them so it was just a matter of time before the bubble burst.
Good luck. Get out and vote if you want to change things.
In summation...
Your loss of Alaka oil money has made my North Dakota oil money all the sweeter.
And your dumb Sarah ruined it for all of us and we could have had McCain in there.
Wow, excuse me for thinking you were just being cocky about Minnesota. You raised the bar on just about every possible level of stupid. Suggesting Sarah lost the election for McLame is beyond naïve. Using Tina Fey's lines against her is sad because it shows you are just a parrot for the MSM and come up short cognitively. The fact you know nothing of where the federal money goes here shows you are again willing to rant about things you know nothing about. My real estate taxes seem to show a big number for schools... and cops... and firemen...
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Nope. Your guy made a sarcastic comment about Minnesota and couldn't even spell it right. You have your opinions and he doesn't know anything about my state.
Alaska is what you see on all those TV shows that romanticize it and Alaska State Troopers where they show alcoholics and druggies driving around being stupid.
It sucks you have to start paying taxes now, but welcome to being part of the united states. You have to pay for those soldiers that keep us free and keep Russia from invading you. Oil revenue is dropping so you can't depend on the lower 48 to keep you funded like the past... sounds strangely like... Too bad they do not have a show on Minnesota violators. They would have almost 25,000 more DUIs to choose from in MN... and then they could go to Murderapolis to file in the gaps in the show... and all the while you are living there to avoid going outdoors and actually doing something.
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I grew up in MN....about 150 miles north of Mogadishu....the commies and socialists drove me out 45 years ago and I'm a Swede...WTH?
MN doesn't have Democrats....they are DFLers.....Democratic Farmer Labor party....hammer and sickle stuff....the MN Socialist Party was broke after WWII so they teamed up with Demos and formed DFL party.
Now they have a budget surplus and Dayton [Target Stores family] won't give it back to the folks that got over-taxed as he has plans to help refugees or some such.
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Ah, the rest of the story as Paul Harvey used to say.
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Wow... this thread went full retard. Continuing on, for the grownups in the room... If the state's spending oil revenues, people grump but don't really get serious about it. When they start spending income tax dollars there will be a whole 'nother level of scrutiny. I agree in theory, and wish that were the case in reality. However, IME the level of scrutiny remains pretty low. People are pissed off that they are paying for things they don't agree with, but they rarely do anything about it. The spending cannot decrease due to political obligations - its just one of the problems of representative government. There is always a compelling enough reason to get small increases approved, but the reasons never go away and neither do the increased taxes.
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Wow... it took a lot of cheap shots at your girl before one of you defended her. Either you agree or one of you happened to look up from your Nailin Palin video long enough to whine.
I'm just giving you guys grief about this because you are so sensitive and wound up that your state is now wanting income taxes and estate taxes. Thats stuff we've had to endure down here for a long time.
Would it make you feel better if I worded my first response like this???
My condolences from the land of 10,000 Taxes. You had a long run before the politicians started to tax you. It sucks to be you and welcome to over taxed pity party. Once again... sorry.
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Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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For a state that relies heavily on tourism it makes no sense to institute an income tax before having a sales tax.
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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For a state that relies heavily on tourism it makes no sense to institute an income tax before having a sales tax. And makes no sense to do either until everything wasteful in the budget that could be, and should be, cut, gets cut.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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I'm guessing 52 X $100,000 = $5.2 Million 5.2 million investment on 200 million revenue! Any hardcore republican businessman would take that deal all day. That's a great ROI when you adjust the figures.
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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Let's say 150k per employee. $200M/.15Mx52 yields a benefit/cost ratio of 25.6. Most would say that's a pretty good return on investment.
Bingo on the ROI
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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A State income tax based on a percentage of Federal income tax only widens the loopholes so those that now escape Federal tax would also escape State tax. Now that is a statement right out of the democrat "tax the rich" 99 percenter handbook.
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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Let's say 150k per employee. $200M/.15Mx52 yields a benefit/cost ratio of 25.6. Most would say that's a pretty good return on investment.
Bingo on the ROI If that was the only investment for the return it would be great, but the additional expenses are far higher and come with huge risk due to the high probability that number would grow. And you are still an azzhat from a totally screwed state.
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Let's say 150k per employee. $200M/.15Mx52 yields a benefit/cost ratio of 25.6. Most would say that's a pretty good return on investment.
Bingo on the ROI If that was the only investment for the return it would be great, but the additional expenses are far higher and come with huge risk due to the high probability that number would grow. And you are still an azzhat from a totally screwed state. As pointed out by someone else, a 25.6 ratio is huge and your government would have to really be screw ups to ruin something with that much potential. Maybe thats why your so whiny about adding government when you fear they'll blow the wad when the potential for return is sooo high. Your government must have as much drama and chaos as your reality shows.
Other than that, How was the show Mrs. Lincoln?
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Return on investment? How the f@&! is hiring more government employees to tax us an investment? They do not create wealth, they add to the burden on the system.
The pitiful thing is, that mentality is what runs through DC, every state capital, municipality/county/parish and city in this country.
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Reading comprehension is a gift...
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Reading comprehension is a gift...
...that some never receive.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time.
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Speaking of jobs....... Received today; from: Dept of Administration
Division of Retirement and Benefits
Notice: AlaskaCare retiree beneficiaries will receive IRS form 1095-B
......Per the Internal Revenue Code...
....form will be sent... So, the state is required to send proof to former employees that they hold coverage, and they send a notice ahead of time, presumably because many of us have no real clue how this is supposed to work. And I would guess that there might be a couple extra people needed or extra assignments are given to those already employed. I wonder who pays for this extra paperwork and correspondence? (Thanks, O! More jobs, ready...... without shovels.)
Sometimes, the air you 'let in'matters less than the air you 'let out'.
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For a state that relies heavily on tourism it makes no sense to institute an income tax before having a sales tax. And makes no sense to do either until everything wasteful in the budget that could be, and should be, cut, gets cut. Absolutely! Keeping the PFD while instituting a income tax is the kind of bait that'll keep the slugs around. Does this have to be voted on or can the king just make the proclamation and thine will is done?
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
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In time of need, I do approve of added taxation. However, senseless squandering does not equate to need!
Last June, State employees received notice of layoffs and or terminations, if Legislatures could not agree upon a budget increase, by the first of July. Walker got his increase by the end if June. Immediately after wards, many state supervisors got new vehicles, weather they needed them or not, and most didn't! Many state offices were immediately given all new equipment, weather they need or not, many didn't need! Much new equiptment was bought, that was not needed!
For the state to possible think that their DOT mechanics are more financially feasible then private contractors is laughable!
Sadly, our state has the same attitude that many of us forearms owners have---NEED has nothing to do with anything!
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