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...Grow Up Donald! Sowell used to be worshipped here. Course, now that he's anti-Trump he's obviously an establishment shill! crazy

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430533/donald-trump-grow-up

GROW UP, DONALD TRUMP!

Of all the many things said about Donald Trump, what was said by Roger Ailes, head of the Fox News Channel, said it all in just two words: “Grow up!”

It is amazing how many people have been oblivious to this middle-aged man’s spoiled-brat behavior, his childish boastfulness about things he says he is going to do, and his petulant response to every criticism with ad hominem replies.

He has boasted that his followers would stick by him even if he committed murder. But is that something to boast about? Is it not an insult to his followers, if it is true? Moreover, his cockiness is misplaced, because he still does not have a majority among Republican voters, while you need a majority of all the voters to win any state in the general election.

Trump has a showman’s talent for telling people what they want to hear. But you can listen in vain for a coherent argument from him, based on facts and logic, much less an understanding of the inherent limitations of the office of president.

More than two centuries ago, Edmund Burke said: “Constitute government how you please, infinitely the greater part of it must depend upon the exercise of the powers which are left at large to the prudence and uprightness of ministers of state.”
In other words, the personal character of the people to whom you entrust the powers of government matters even more than what kinds of government institutions there are. There have been some good kings and some bad presidents, as well as vice versa.

In a world where the future of this country is threatened from within by increasingly angry polarization, and where external threats can become nuclear, are we really going to entrust the safety or this country to a man who still needs to grow up?
Is the fact that he loudly expressed our own disgust with the political establishment a sufficient reason to gamble the whole future of the country by putting him in the White House?

The White House is not a place for on-the-job training. You are supposed to be ready, or at the very least grown up, before you walk in the door. Aging happens automatically, but maturity is optional — and it is an option that Donald Trump has not yet chosen to exercise. The issue that Trump raised about Ted Cruz’s having been born in Canada is not the first time he has tried to challenge where someone was born. “The Donald” was among those who tried to say that Barack Obama was not born an American citizen, and who disgraced themselves, while undermining other critics of Obama who had serious objections to his policies.

On the other hand, messianic demagogues have often spoken at least part of the truth. But they have also often led their followers to their doom, whether at Jonestown, Stalingrad, or innumerable other places. That is a very high price to pay for an exhilaration of the moment.

Donald Trump is not the only one who needs to act like an adult. With this country starting to unravel from within, while ruthless enemies overseas are developing both nuclear weapons and intercontinental missiles to deliver them, we face problems that cannot be solved by candidates with glib words or by voters who vote for whoever meets their emotional needs.

If you don’t understand the issues, but want to do your patriotic duty, then stay home on election night, whether in the primaries or in the national election in November. Uninformed voters turn elections into a game of playing Russian roulette with the future of America.

Conservative candidates will also have an opportunity to show their maturity and their patriotism. This is not the first primary season in which the conservative vote has been split among so many Republican candidates that it virtually guarantees that someone who is not a conservative will win the Republican nomination.

At some point during the primary season, it becomes clear that some candidates have no real chance of winning the nomination, much less the general election. At that point they can either continue hanging on, keeping the conservative vote split, or they can withdraw and throw their support to some other conservative candidate who has a chance.

A lot of people need to grow up, and to do something for this country that has done so much for them.


Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. His website is tsowell.com. © 2015 Creators Syndicate Inc.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430533/donald-trump-grow-up

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Sowell's been pissed ever since his brethen burned down the Ferguson CVT drug store and his annual supply of Viagra went up in smoke.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
Sowell's been pissed ever since his brethen burned down the Ferguson CVT drug store and his annual supply of Viagra went up in smoke.


False---and irrelevant. If you must however, the truth is that
Sowell was a very harsh critic of Black Lives and the Ferguson fiasco, which is consistent with his historic criticism of race-based favoritism.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
humph!


In other words, you're speechless! wink


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And yet, NO ONE is discussing Fiorina. Odd... not.


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Rob, vote Trump and make America great again.

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Originally Posted by 4ager
And yet, NO ONE is discussing Fiorina. Odd... not.


Which is wholly and utterly irrelevant to the substance of Sowell's criticisms. I guess even lawyers have trouble with simple logic!


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Rob, vote Trump and make America great again.


A vote for Trump is either a vote for Hillary or Sanders. How would that make America great again? crazy


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Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by 4ager
And yet, NO ONE is discussing Fiorina. Odd... not.


Which is wholly and utterly irrelevant to the substance of Sowell's criticisms. I guess even lawyers have trouble with simple logic!


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God knows you typify that.

The point is, Rob, that your chosen one flamed out terribly.

You have a choice: R v D.

However, your choice is irrelevant because the PRK is a winner-take-all state, and it will go D no matter what you do.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by 4ager
And yet, NO ONE is discussing Fiorina. Odd... not.


Which is wholly and utterly irrelevant to the substance of Sowell's criticisms. I guess even lawyers have trouble with simple logic!


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God knows you typify that.

The point is, Rob, that your chosen one flamed out terribly.

You have a choice: R v D.

However, your choice is irrelevant because the PRK is a winner-take-all state, and it will go D no matter what you do.


Wow, you really are a slow learner. laugh All of your points are wholly and utterly irrelevant to the substance of Sowell's criticisms of Trump. Sorry, but I'm not going to cooperate with your feeble attempt to change the subject.


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"Is the fact that he loudly expressed our own disgust with the political establishment a sufficient reason to gamble the whole future of the country by putting him in the White House?"

This remains the essential question.

Sowell, in the rest of the article, does not answer this, and gives no alternative as to why we should vote for anyone else who is unwilling to express disgust with the political establishment. His descriptions in the rest of the article basically said that there is no one worth voting for.

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and gives no alternative as to why we should vote for anyone else who is unwilling to express disgust with the political establishment.


I guess he never listened to Cruz.


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Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
"Is the fact that he loudly expressed our own disgust with the political establishment a sufficient reason to gamble the whole future of the country by putting him in the White House?"

This remains the essential question.

Sowell, in the rest of the article, does not answer this, and gives no alternative as to why we should vote for anyone else who is unwilling to express disgust with the political establishment. His descriptions in the rest of the article basically said that there is no one worth voting for.


Actually, his entire commentary is an answer to the above question. Sowell makes the following points: character matters (Trump doesn't have it.). Experience matters (Trump doesn't have it). Maturity matters. Trump doesn't have it. Trump aided and abetted Obama. Trump is a messianic demagogue not unlike Jim Jones or Hitler. And finally, Trump is unelectable nationally.

All of these points, and others, were made by Sowell---all responsive to the question you quoted above---it's not enough merely to express disgust with the government.


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Originally Posted by RobJordan
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
"Is the fact that he loudly expressed our own disgust with the political establishment a sufficient reason to gamble the whole future of the country by putting him in the White House?"

This remains the essential question.

Sowell, in the rest of the article, does not answer this, and gives no alternative as to why we should vote for anyone else who is unwilling to express disgust with the political establishment. His descriptions in the rest of the article basically said that there is no one worth voting for.


Actually, his entire commentary is an answer to the above question. Sowell makes the following points: character matters (Trump doesn't have it.). Experience matters (Trump doesn't have it). Maturity matters. Trump doesn't have it. Trump aided and abetted Obama. Trump is a messianic demagogue not unlike Jim Jones or Hitler. And finally, Trump is unelectable nationally.

All of these points, and others, were made by Sowell---all responsive to the question you quoted above---it's not enough merely to express disgust with the government.


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Yes, he concluded that we should not vote for Trump. He said nothing of any other politician who could actually do the job any better. He did vaguely refer to "conservative candidates" at one point toward the end of the article. It was basically a Trump hit-piece. But he did not give substance to who, or how they, would give a better shot at answering all the questions.


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