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Contemplating a move in the next year.

Is either of these a clear preference over the other for quality of outdoor life?

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Greensboro and the general Piedmont area of NC is pretty heavily populated, and not all that conducive to easy hunting, but there are lots of lakes nearby if you'd rather fish.


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Can't say much about Greensboro but Knoxville is close to lots of good fishing. Tellico is a great crappie lake and Douglas is as well with great bass fishing too. Oak Ridge has some great turkey hunting. Also lots of river fishing around Knoxville for bass and trout.


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Knoxville will give you access to much more public hunting land within 1 1/2 hours drive than Greensboro. As for fishing, within 1 1/2 hours of Knoxville are two of the best trout fishing tailwaters on the east coast, many of the Smokey Mountain brookie trout streams, plus numerous lakes with great bass fishing.

For an outdoorsman I would vote Knoxville.

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Tn is sportsman friendly. I'm a couple hours west of Knoxville in Jackson County

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There is no shortage of Places to hunt within a hour or so of Greensboro...Lots of Good fishing....It is over populated!!!!!


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I'm just east of Knoxville, and get down there for work often. Pm if I can help.

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No state income tax in Knoxville.


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SW Virginia or Tri-Cities area!!

I also like Western NC to middle-TN.


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sjb, thanks for the offer. It's up in the air right now, but work and life situations are steering the wife and me out of here before very long, and we're narrowing down options. Quality of life will be high on the list of variables.

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TN needs more residents, NC is overflowing with people; roads and infrastructure cannot keep up - I'd go to TN.


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State income tax situation would steer me to TN. NC is a pretty high tax state.

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Greensboro sucks,,,, hot, crowded and flat,,, Knoxville has more to offer and you are close to the mountains,,, heck in 2 hours you can be over 6,500 feet up.


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TN. We'll talk in March.


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Originally Posted by Odessa
TN needs more residents, NC is overflowing with people; roads and infrastructure cannot keep up - I'd go to TN.


Knoxville is no better when it comes to that. The roads are all to hell and dont plan on going anywhere when there is a football game at home. But it is close to some killer fishing.


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sjb, thanks for the offer. It's up in the air right now, but work and life situations are steering the wife and me out of here before very long, and we're narrowing down options. Quality of life will be high on the list of variables.


NOT GSO.

RWE doesn't live that far from GSO, and he's in a decent area. That said, he'll give you the straight skinny on the area.

TN or SW VA (or quite a few other places in VA) kick GSO squarely in the ass in any measurable "quality of life" metric I can think of, however.


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I live 30 minutes north of Greensboro just across the state line in VA. Rural life here. We go to Greensboro, Winston-Salem, or Raleigh when we feel the need to go to the "city."


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I am about 20 miles from GSO, and that is plenty close enough. While there is good hunting and fishing to be found and you are never more that a half day from the grand strand or God's country, you are are surrounded by Winston Salem to the west, Charlotte south of you, and Durham to the east. You might as well be in Mogadishu as live in one of those hell holes and they are all Sanctuary cities. This area has it's bright spots but I am not sure that I would relocate here. If not for aging family I would be 3 hours west of here.

If you do decide on GSO, look north of the city for a place to live. Nice areas and schools around Summerfield or Stokesdale with a decent commute. Good luck.


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NC has had a larger influx of liberals in comparison. Knoxville is cool, but their road system blows!

Why these 2? Only options for your work?

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Tom,

There are a few $$ sections of Greensboro, Winston, etc that are nice communities because they have old money influence, but the governments in those areas are always going to cater to the heavy minority component.

Remember, GSO just had their epiphany that minorities are being stopped more than white folk for equipment violations and secondary violations, so the city crafted an edict to curb equipment violation stops - so they wouldn't profile anymore.

We are still knocking out subdivisions in the county though, many with 6 figure houses being spec'd, some with acreage tracts, etc.

A lot in nice neighborhoods, you'll just have to get a lease or other land somewhere to hunt.

Now, in the surrounding counties, things are less cosmopolitan, and your level of comfort is based on what you put into it. I'm in an old farmhouse that needs a lot of upkeep, but I have 150 acres. No one, not even the local government, bothers us, because its conservative farmers and their descendants. And I blow things up a lot.

I know where there's another brick ranch with 150 acres southwest of asheboro. May even be a farm pond. 30 minutes to downtown greensboro.

Or I can guide you to developers handling low maintenance, nice neighborhood houses (probably with HOA's and such) even closer.

But again, the city governments suck. And there's areas I don't go in daylight.


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Originally Posted by CrowRifle


If you do decide on GSO, look north of the city for a place to live. Nice areas and schools around Summerfield,Oak Ridge or Stokesdale with a decent commute. Good luck.



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Tom,

There are a few $$ sections of Greensboro, Winston, etc that are nice communities because they have old money influence, but the governments in those areas are always going to cater to the heavy minority component.

Remember, GSO just had their epiphany that minorities are being stopped more than white folk for equipment violations and secondary violations, so the city crafted an edict to curb equipment violation stops - so they wouldn't profile anymore.

We are still knocking out subdivisions in the county though, many with 6 figure houses being spec'd, some with acreage tracts, etc.

A lot in nice neighborhoods, you'll just have to get a lease or other land somewhere to hunt.

Now, in the surrounding counties, things are less cosmopolitan, and your level of comfort is based on what you put into it. I'm in an old farmhouse that needs a lot of upkeep, but I have 150 acres. No one, not even the local government, bothers us, because its conservative farmers and their descendants. And I blow things up a lot.

I know where there's another brick ranch with 150 acres southwest of asheboro. May even be a farm pond. 30 minutes to downtown greensboro.

Or I can guide you to low maintenance, nice neighborhood houses (probably with HOA's and such) even closer.

But again, the city governments suck.



Especially when you're trying to build things.


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And I blow things up a lot.


Especially when you're trying to build things.


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Knoxville for all of the reasons listed plus SEC football. If I was going to be a city boy Knoxville would be my pick.

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One thing that pissed me off about the area, is that High Point, NC (near GSO) closed its Shakespeare Theatre.

A sign of the times that the economy is still in fragile shape.

There is no doubt in my mind that Knoxville is "bigger" than the metropolitan complex of GSO, Winston, High Point, etc combined. Probably a lot more offerings in one location than you could get here, if that's what your looking for.

You'd have to go to raleigh or Charlotte for some levels of entertainment.

But I don't know how far outside knoxville one would have to go to find (my idea) of peace.

Hope the rambling helps.


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GSO and W-S are growing the wrong way IMHO and judging by the out of state plates I see everywhere do not see a change in that direction. Taxes at every level are out of hand IMHO.

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If "cost of living" matters in your decision, then TN wins hands down. We just had to make this same decision (TN or NC) and chose not to live in NC because of the tax's. There is a significant difference.

Good luck.

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Three guys on my floor alone are from TN, each owns a house in each state . There must be a lot more IT jobs in the GSBO-W-S-HP area then there are in Eastern TN.

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Originally Posted by ro1459
If "cost of living" matters in your decision, then TN wins hands down. We just had to make this same decision (TN or NC) and chose not to live in NC because of the tax's. There is a significant difference.

Good luck.


Not just taxes, but other costs (insurances, gas, utilities, etc.) are also higher in NC than they are in TN or VA.


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I am familiar with both places. MOVE to TN!


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When in Knoxville check out the mouse's ear, nothing like it in Greensboro. NC's public schools are better than Tn. Lots of really good looking coeds in Knoxville.

If I was going to move to east Tn, I'd move to Cleveland, mostly white people & good schools.

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Another vote for Knoxville over Greensboro if one must live in a larger city. Greensboro just plain sucks.


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Originally Posted by PPosey
Greensboro sucks,,,, hot, crowded and flat,,, Knoxville has more to offer and you are close to the mountains,,, heck in 2 hours you can be over 6,500 feet up.



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Conversely, in 3 hours, you can be at the ocean from GSO.

If that's your gig.



(Just not in GSO, but the GSO area.)

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Originally Posted by RWE
Conversely, in 3 hours, you can be at the ocean from GSO.

If that's your gig.



(Just not in GSO, but the GSO area.)


and be in some beautiful mountains in 2 hours as well

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Gas tax is about .10-.20 higher per gal in N.C. than in TN as well


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Conversely, in 3 hours, you can be at the ocean from GSO.

If that's your gig.



(Just not in GSO, but the GSO area.)


and be in some beautiful mountains in 2 hours as well



Yeah...but meanwhile you are living in a dreary place... ( I lived in Greensboro for a year before I escaped to where there are real mountains...)


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One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.

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One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.


Because of the higher taxes?
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More of your liberal buddies?


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One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.


Of course, you would - you Eastern European, eurotrash socialist with absolutely NO knowledge of either place under discussion.


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One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.


Because of the higher taxes?
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More of your liberal buddies?

More liberals = higher taxes


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Originally Posted by Slavek
One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.



I would impose a 400K moving tax on [bleep] like you when you move to a Red state.

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One is Red State or will be the other is Blue State. I would choose NC.


do the opposite of what this dick says.

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I'd choose Tennessee over North Carolina, but would NOT live in Knoxville...or Memphis.

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If listening to nationalist conservative for five minutes gives you headache choose NC. If listening to progressive or progressive moderate for five minutes gives you headache choose TN.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
If listening to nationalist conservative for five minutes gives you headache choose NC. If listening to progressive or progressive moderate for five minutes gives you headache choose TN.


You have no clue on either state, or either city/region under consideration. Crawl back into your gulag, komrade.


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Crawl back into your gulag, komrade.


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I have only passed through Greensboro a couple of times and cannot comment on the quality of life there. However, I did live in Knoxville, Maryville and Morristown for quite a few years.

If you like fishing, hiking and very nice mountain scenery then you will like Knoxville and the surrounding area. If you are focused mainly on hunting especially for deer, you might be disappointed. There is a lot of decent public land hunting not far from Knoxville, but it cannot compare to middle Tennessee for deer hunting. If river or mountain stream trout and smallmouth fishing is your thing then you are in luck. Same goes for reservoir fishing for bass, stripers, catfish etc.

If you like college sports it does not get much better than football Saturdays in Knoxville. I just hope you like orange.

Knoxville is just big enough to have decent theatre, museum and music events. It has plentiful shopping and outlet malls close by in Pigeon Forge/Sevierville. It is still small enough to an element of rural East Tennessee to it though.

There a several smaller towns that are not quite suburbs that would keep you closer to the outdoors and rural life, but are still close enough to Knoxville that you could be there in less than an hour. These include Maryville, Oak Ridge, Norris and Lenoir City that come time mind.

I have lived all over the South and would chose East Tennessee over any other place I have lived given the choice.


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Originally Posted by 4ager
Originally Posted by Slavek
If listening to nationalist conservative for five minutes gives you headache choose NC. If listening to progressive or progressive moderate for five minutes gives you headache choose TN.


You have no clue on either state, or either city/region under consideration. Crawl back into your gulag, komrade.
You gotta admit it was pretty funny...and accurate.

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I lived close to Knoxville for about 30 years. I don't believe anyone has mentioned Oak Ridge Sportsmans Assoc. in Oak Ridge as a great place to shoot; a TWRA (State DNR) range in Knoxville, and a couple of other range in the area.

Good fishing right in Knoxville (Ft. Loudoun) and other good reservoirs close by - Tellico, Melton Hill, Douglas, and Cherokee. No matter what part of Knoxville you live in, there is a lake or two on your side of town.


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TN. We'll talk in March.


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I understand you're up to your ass in possums, though. That's a little concerning.

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I have only passed through Greensboro a couple of times and cannot comment on the quality of life there. However, I did live in Knoxville, Maryville and Morristown for quite a few years.

If you like fishing, hiking and very nice mountain scenery then you will like Knoxville and the surrounding area. If you are focused mainly on hunting especially for deer, you might be disappointed. There is a lot of decent public land hunting not far from Knoxville, but it cannot compare to middle Tennessee for deer hunting. If river or mountain stream trout and smallmouth fishing is your thing then you are in luck. Same goes for reservoir fishing for bass, stripers, catfish etc.

If you like college sports it does not get much better than football Saturdays in Knoxville. I just hope you like orange.

Knoxville is just big enough to have decent theatre, museum and music events. It has plentiful shopping and outlet malls close by in Pigeon Forge/Sevierville. It is still small enough to an element of rural East Tennessee to it though.

There a several smaller towns that are not quite suburbs that would keep you closer to the outdoors and rural life, but are still close enough to Knoxville that you could be there in less than an hour. These include Maryville, Oak Ridge, Norris and Lenoir City that come time mind.

I have lived all over the South and would chose East Tennessee over any other place I have lived given the choice.


Small world man, I too lived in Maryville and Morristown, all though as a kid and not an adult.

My home is in Alabama, but man there is something special about east Tenn. One of the very few places I would ever consider living.

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Hope the rambling helps.


At my age, rambling is not only par, but expected.

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Originally Posted by Slavek
If listening to nationalist conservative for five minutes gives you headache choose NC. If listening to progressive or progressive moderate for five minutes gives you headache choose TN.



It has taken many generations of carefully selected inbreeding to produce this level of ignorance or maybe its just all industrial pollution in the water in Eastern Europe that has impaired your mental development.

In any event why don't you do the world a favor and get run over by a bus you no account servile scum.


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