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I am thinking of having a m70 rebarreled to 9.3x62. I want it light. It will be used for black bear and moose. I am thinking of using a Douglas #3 finished at 20" dropped in a hunters edge. Anyone have a lightweight 9.3x62?

How light are you looking to go? My M12 Mauser is about 7 1/4 pounds. Any specific questions?

What barrel contour is currently on the M70? Might consider having it rebored by JES to 9.3x62. In doing so, you'll maintain the existing barrel profile (if it suits your definition of light).

+1. Saves money, is already blued and fitted to stock. IME, quality rebores shoot as well or better than new barrels.

700 300 H&H rebored to 400 H&H by Norm Johnson, restocked and Rigby style bottom metal. "Big Medicine"



Have a 30-06 No. 1 out right now to become a 1B 35 Whelen.

I had a 9.3x62 built on a Colt Light Rifle. It had a Douglas #3 installed by Melvin and stocked with an 18oz MPI rifles inc style stock. The completed rifle was 5lb 9oz bare and 6lb 3oz with Talley QR rings and a 2.5x Leupold.

I used it for a couple seasons and got some game with it but in the end it was just too much of a good thing. Since I already also had a 6 3/4lb 338 Win and a 7 1/4lb 375H&H, the CLR is now a 5lb 6.5-06AI.

In summation, cool concept but just outside the realm of practical in execution.....which roughly translates to GO FOR IT!!

Check with Handwerk as I think he had one.

More Larry Root lies?

His pics are always that same format. Long rectangle, grainy, weird?

Makes him easy to spot!

Current barrel contour is factory ultimate shadow. Haven't ruled out a rebore. Looking to be ~7-7.25lbs with leupold 4x. How do these recoil compared to 84l 30-06 with 180s?

Shooting my 8lb 8oz M98 20"bbl 9.3x62 using 270gr Speers at 2415fps is about like shooting my 6lb 6oz S&W 1640 17"bbl .30-06 using 180gr Federal ammo at 2509fps.

Gee 260 a'int it funny that the 721, 722 pics and this photo were taken on the same rug. Gotta tell you that it's really tough to look all over the net' to find all these pictures to steal with exactly the same background. Makes ya gotta wonder just who is the liar ????

long ? rectangular ? uhhhh that's the shape of a rifle last time I looked. grainy ? uhhhh that's what you get with an old digital camera and image limitation imposed by the site to allow quick downloading for viewers.

In any case, topic was a 9.3x62 barrel not unproven accusations or photo critiques.

OP, you'll like the 9.3. An uncommon one.



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And lots more on the web....

DF

Larry Root,

You're untrustworthy and anything you post is suspect.

A trustworthy person wouldn't have to change his handle all the time. You are always changing handles as a means by which to escape from your well earned reputation.

Have you forgotten that you made:


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I'm sure that FOsteology has a list of your other handles somewhere. As they say, "you can run, but you can't hide".

As for me, there is no question at all who the liar is. You're as bad as Safariman, AKA Mark Claireborne, but at least he finally figured it out and left. You, on the other hand, keep coming back with a new handle, but the same old pictures and line of BS.

Another outburst like that and I will report you to a moderator.

You've been warned.

I have a sub 6lb ruger in 358. It has an MPI stock and a #2 Douglas at 20"

I haven't measured the barrel thickness at the muzzle to see if it would be possible to get to a 9.3 in the #2 but just going by looks, If building it myself I would opt for a #3

My 358 is fairly lively shooting 200 grainers, but not painful. I stout load under a 225 partition is getting into the transition zone. Part of that is the compact size of the stock.

Here is the 358,



and to show how compact the MPI stock is, here it is next to the McMillan MKII classic it replaced.



Some 20 years ago I built a very similar rifle 20" #2 douglas, brown kevlar stock on a tang safety in 358 Norma and it was one of the worst kickers I ever fired. It wasn't really how hard it kicked but more of how fast it came back.

As for me I could go for a 9.3 like you suggest. It ( like my 358) would be a carry a lot, shoot a little rifle. My feeling is that the recoil of the 9.3 would be better than that of the Norma.

I had one built on a commercial Mauser action a few years ago just like that. Number 3 Douglas at 21" .
Worked out great but alas, I am the proverbial gun whore. Something else came along that was all sparkly and caught my eye.
But I did manage to drop a nice buck with one shot before it went away. Nice package.
Good luck with it.
Les

Here's my Rem 700 with a Douglas #3 at 20".



setup just like that with three rounds I was at 8 lbs even. That was after drilling some holes in the butt of that lam JRS stock. That stock did not agree with me and shooting off the bench was absolutely brutal...

I've barely shot the thing and picked up a Ruger No.1 in 9.3 Mouse which I hunted elk with this year. Probably gonna rebarrel the 700 or sell it.

Anyway, I pulled the action and weighed it and with no scope but Talley LW rings mounted she weighs 4 lbs 15 oz. Don't know how much your M70 action weighs but you should be able to figure out some weights from that data.

Good luck. A shorty 9.3 rocks!

My 9.3X62 is on a Pac Nor stainless barrel in Douglas #3 contour. 22 1/2" in length, .635" at the muzzle.

The other parts are a pre-64 transition action and a Brown Precision fibreglass stock. With a Leupold 6X36 scope in DDs, it weighs 7 pounds 6 oz, is slightly muzzle heavy and is perfect! I wouldn't change a thing. It is the tan rifle in the photo.

With 250 grainers it is quite pleasant to shoot. With 270s and up you need to hold on.

LH Win 70 9.3 X 62 22" SS Pac-Nor exact same profile as Win 270 Barrel, Mcmillion Edge stock. 5 down in mag. About 8 # as shown. Balance is great, accurate 2520 FPS With 286 Gr NP with Ram Shot Big Game.

See if you can find a pic of Win458's 9.3 on a Win action.

It's pretty sweet for a tote-able thumper.

Wow lots of nice rifles! I am also considering picking up a mrc1999 action from itd. Only $1100 with choice of Douglas barrel. Sounds like a good deal also.

Really hard to go wrong with that direction. Would be a nice rifle.

What do you want for finished weight?

Mauser wearing a lothar walther #718. Very handy and easy to tote around, forget the exact weight off the top of my head but ready to hunt with scope and all is right around 8.5.

Built it because my 375 is a pig. Had a nostalgia moment and brought the 375 to the range, reminded me why I had the 9.3 built.

Want it under 7.5lbs with scope. Still ne to Reloading so safety question time. The Mrc short action has a box length of 3.125 could I stuff a 9.3 in it? Looking to fire 250tsx. I don't push speed when reloading, everything is around mid level book loads.

The short action is a non-starter with the 9.3X62. You need 3.4" or so to make it work. You could do Barsness' 9.3BS, the 350 Rem Mag necked up in that action.

To make under 7.5 pounds scoped with a lightish scope,you can get there with a #3 Douglas type contour. But you will need a light stock like a Brown Precision or McMillan Edge. You will also need to go blind mag, that steel floorplate is heavy! See mine a few posts up. Those rifles are blind mag.

Kind of what I figured with the short action. Rick your tan stocked rifle is set up real close to what I am aiming for. What is involved going to the blind mag? Do I just get a trigger guard from bat? This will be going In to an edge e.

That is about it. Source an ADL type trigger guard and your stock guy will do the rest. Sunny Hill, etc.

If you are strict on the "under 7 1/2 pounds" and wisely do not go with an ultra light barrel, you have to go blind mag.

I went with a McM edge and a sporter countour barrel at 23.5" and with the scope the rig goes 7.75lbs...

For a 250 grain TTSX 9.3x62 that's not a bad setup

Phil's 9.3 is a light weight M-70 in an Echols Legend stock. Very nice.

DF

I've had a CZ 9.3x62, and a model 70 358 win, and after playing with the MCMillan & BC stocks on both of them I took a Sako 85 270 finnlight and rebarrelled it to 9.3x62, and put it in a MC Edge.
Here is the Sako 85




Here are the weights of the components from screwing around with those

A few years back I had Redneck do the metal work on a 1952 Pre 64 M70 action and 24" #3 Pacnor. He then sent it to Charley Santoni for the finish work. it's sitting in D'Arcy Echols Legend, Edge filled stock. With Leopold QR's base/rings and a 1.75-6 VX3. it's right at 8 lb 5 oz. Might be one of the most accurate rifles I own too.



Alan

Great project.

To the poster who asked about Phil's 9.3, it looks a lot like this one, IIRC, has a peep sight/irons instead of a scope.

DF

Phil's rifle is also left in the original, unfinished, black; as it comes from McMillan. Quite a good looking rifle where you can see the layer up fiberglass cloth.

Alan

Looks something like this. I almost left mine unpainted.

DF

Phil's rifle has a 22" barrel, and very close to factory sporter contour. Legend Edge as has been mentioned.

IIRC, it's in the 7# range.

I think Phil's reasoning was, it's gonna be packed a lot more than it's gonna be shot...

DF

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Mine started out as a Classic Stainless .30-06 with a standard sporter contour. JES rebored it and cut the barrel to 20.5". I added a McMillan Winlite stock, NECG banded front sight and Talley peep/QDs with a Leupold 2x7. It weighs 8lbs as shown above. Most often I carry it with the peep rather than the scope however. As shown below it's just a touch over 7lbs all up. I end up killing more stuff with the peep come to think of it.

I still can't make up my mind on this one. Considering an 8x57 too. Could build it lighter and not have to worry about recoil but would not have the big bore.

It's a medium. Easy to make a 9.3 behave like an 8mm ballistically, but if you want more power, the 8mm will never be a 9.3

Pa- that is a sweet little thumper!

Thanks. Like just about everyone else I've heard of who's tried a 9.3, I find the cartridge totally satisfactory for just about all of my big game hunting. I've shot a variety of stuff with the .375 and the 9.3. So far I've not been able to discern a difference between the two with performance. The 9.3 kicks only a bit more than an '06, but is lighter and has more rounds than the .375. It's a win!

Here's my old 9.3X62 on a pre-64 M70. It has a 21" barrel (can't remember why), sits in a Brown Precision stock, and weighs a tad under eight pounds as you see it with Leupold 4X Compact aboard.



It gets your attention with 285s at over 2500 fps, and really lets you know with 320s at close to 2300, an experience several on this site have been subjected to.

It's even more base when fired using this system.



But, it's good when you need it!
Ted