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I appreciate your dissertation that my query somehow prompted.
I suspect that as a spiteful response to the 270, a 256 Newton would have exceeded the 270. Based on a slightly modified 30-06 case, Newton's cartridge was introduced about the same time (1913) that the 270's long gestation began. At true 6.5mm cartridge, it's what the 270 wants to be when it grows up and loses 0.013" of baby fat. Admittedly, because one can't buy cartridges for the Newton at the local Mart, it's not quite as practical as the 270.
I'm uncertain what role practicality may play in a shamanesque environment.
--Bob What role? I would say as little as possible. I once had a college professor who had "Through Absurdity, Truth." written in Latin up on the wall of his office. One of the chief purposes of the shaman is to do just that. Or as one of my colleagues once said: "I provide comfort to the disquieted, while disquieting the comfortable." The trick is to stay on that ragged edge; you don't want them putting you on IGNORE, just enough to keep them tuning in to see what the crazy bugger is going to write next. .256 Newton is rather neutral in my book, and I'm quite well disposed to 280 Remington. I suspect the 270 thing was due to reading too many magazines in the barbershop, and doing so at such an impressionable age left me with lasting scars. They're not necessarily permanent either. I was similarly vitriolic about 308 Winchester until about 15 years ago and now a 308 WIN rifle is my favorite deer gun. I suppose if someone went back and researched it , they could find the issues of Outdoor Life that did this too me-- probably starting the summer of '64 or thereabouts.
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![[Linked Image]](http://abovethelaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/kiss-jesse-jacksons-ass.jpg) In 2007 Randy Marsh missed the word "nagger" on TV he had to find Jesse Jackson the head of all blacks to apologize. In 2007 Zumbo dissed AR15 ownership rights, he had to find Ted Nugent, the head of all hunters to apologize. ![[Linked Image]](http://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/06/03/business/600-rifle-01.jpg)
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And BY IN LARGE, a FUDD is a Conservative Yankee, also known as a liberal.
Just because you're the leper with the most fingers doesn't mean you're not a leper. And I've quickly learned conservative "rebels" are no more conservative than conservative "yankees" are. I'm more socially conservative than the vast majority of them. But back to Zumbo. I could care less if he said Remington 700's need banned. One mans opinions don't move me that deeply. My grandfathers were both war veterans and hunters and they both felt "assault" rifles should be banned. I never hated them because of it. Family can be cull too. If you don't fight stupid where you find it, then what the hell are you doing to help? Obviously not a damned thing. Congrats?
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... As reported here recently, I even bought a 25-06 rifle just to spite the concept of the 270 Winchester and I bought a bunch of 270 brass and resized them to 25-06. I get a very gratifying feeling as I "knock the queer" out of that 270 brass. ... Shaman- I appreciate your dissertation that my query somehow prompted. I suspect that as a spiteful response to the 270, a 256 Newton would have exceeded the 270. Based on a slightly modified 30-06 case, Newton's cartridge was introduced about the same time (1913) that the 270's long gestation began. At true 6.5mm cartridge, it's what the 270 wants to be when it grows up and loses 0.013" of baby fat. Admittedly, because one can't buy cartridges for the Newton at the local Mart, it's not quite as practical as the 270. I'm uncertain what role practicality may play in a shamanesque environment. --Bob You guys really need to go kill some stuff. Bunch of whack jobs.....  You really sit around thinking about this shidt? LMAO.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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And BY IN LARGE, a FUDD is a Conservative Yankee, also known as a liberal.
Just because you're the leper with the most fingers doesn't mean you're not a leper. And I've quickly learned conservative "rebels" are no more conservative than conservative "yankees" are. I'm more socially conservative than the vast majority of them. But back to Zumbo. I could care less if he said Remington 700's need banned. One mans opinions don't move me that deeply. My grandfathers were both war veterans and hunters and they both felt "assault" rifles should be banned. I never hated them because of it. Family can be cull too. If you don't fight stupid where you find it, then what the hell are you doing to help? Obviously not a damned thing. Congrats? These are WWII and a Korean war veteran that you are referring to as "culls". I thought the Conservative way was to honor our vets?
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Someone's service does not give them a pass to support the removal of rights.
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I don't know if anybody else picked up on this but I think Jim Zumbo posted in this thread.............Twice.
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I don't know if anybody else picked up on this but I think Jim Zumbo posted in this thread.............Twice. That thought crossed my mind with one suspective post...
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And BY IN LARGE, a FUDD is a Conservative Yankee, also known as a liberal.
Just because you're the leper with the most fingers doesn't mean you're not a leper. And I've quickly learned conservative "rebels" are no more conservative than conservative "yankees" are. I'm more socially conservative than the vast majority of them. But back to Zumbo. I could care less if he said Remington 700's need banned. One mans opinions don't move me that deeply. My grandfathers were both war veterans and hunters and they both felt "assault" rifles should be banned. I never hated them because of it. Family can be cull too. If you don't fight stupid where you find it, then what the hell are you doing to help? Obviously not a damned thing. Congrats? These are WWII and a Korean war veteran that you are referring to as "culls". I thought the Conservative way was to honor our vets? Voting for the likes of Obama and Bernie is the greatest disservice one can do to Veterans. Men that fought and died to protect the Constitution and people elect people that want to destroy it. You ain't the smart one in the family, are you
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I never voted for Obama and I'm sure not voting for Sanders, azzhat.
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As far as needing a guide, sorta like JOC.
I liked his articles on elk hunting.
I understand why his dislike for AR-15's and hunting too. My cousins started out with semi-auto 22's. We had single shots. We would end up with the rabbits and squirrels. They'd end up with empty boxes of shells.
As far as fat men go... Hey Good post. Not a Zumbo fan...not a Zumbo hater. Not a fan of the AR for hunting anything but what they were originally designed for, and yes, I have/shoot ARs.
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The often used term "Fudd," while somewhat annoying, is apparent when viewing threads like this.
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Someone's service does not give them a pass to support the removal of rights. This
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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As far as needing a guide, sorta like JOC.
I liked his articles on elk hunting.
I understand why his dislike for AR-15's and hunting too. My cousins started out with semi-auto 22's. We had single shots. We would end up with the rabbits and squirrels. They'd end up with empty boxes of shells.
As far as fat men go... Hey Good post. Not a Zumbo fan...not a Zumbo hater. Not a fan of the AR for hunting anything but what they were originally designed for, and yes, I have/shoot ARs. But bet you hunt with bolt guns.... lets see now... 1903 springfield ring any bells....
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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Liking or not liking a certain gun, tool, car, etc. is everyone's right..where that right becomes offensive is when the dislike is an affront to my rights. Zumbo made this mistake. At least he had the balls to say what many feel, including many on this very site.
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The often used term "Fudd," while somewhat annoying, is apparent when viewing threads like this.
I have zero interest in AR's so perhaps I'm a Fudd. Of course there are few things I enjoy more than an AK-47 and a couple magazines of x39's. 
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9mm handguns and 223 ARs are the biggest sellers.
Go to the range and that is what young people are shooting.
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9mm handguns and 223 ARs are the biggest sellers.
Go to the range and that is what young people are shooting. Thanks Clark - My S-W 6906, 9 mil is my fav self defense weapon. Guess that makes me "young".  B T W - I am 66.  Actually -- I wish I had gotten it in S-W 40 but I am too well stocked on components to even consider swapping. Oh Well. Jerry
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Fudd
Slang term for a "casual" gun owner; eg; a person who typically only owns guns for hunting or shotgun sports and does not truly believe in the true premise of the second amendment. These people also generally treat owners/users of so called "non sporting" firearms like handguns or semiautomatic rifles with unwarranted scorn or contempt.
"See sonny, all those pistols in that cabinet... all thems is good for is killin people." -Example of ignorant comment from a fudd at a local gun shop. See also: Zumbo.
Zumbo
1.) A person who speaks from ignorance.
2.) A person who has his head buried so far up his ass he can't see the truth.
See that Zumbo over there, he used to be a well known outdoor writer until he pissed off the masses with some ignorant statement about banning guns.
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
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I blame people more who should know better.
I can't think of any examples that are worse than a gun writer that writes the 2nd should be infringed.
I'm thinking.... a child protective officer that rapes toddlers.
Ok, that's worse.
Zumbo should get out of jail before THAT guy.
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