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Yes sir, I do.. I can live with either one as POTUS but not Hitlery or Sanders Well hell yeah. Just because I don't think Trump is a conservative doesn't mean I think he's a communist.
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On the flip side, I'm hoping the other candidates begin using softcore Porn Actresses like Ted Cruz. No wonder he approved that message.
Was it Trump's old lady? I could see a conflict of interest there.
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Perhaps, for some. Trump is in your face and many believe you are getting what you see. Cruz has that slick, polished, 'Safariman' type 'Christian' approach. Smiling whilst sticking it in your back.
That said, I still trust Cruz more to put in the RIGHT Supreme Court Justices, hence the reason he'll get my vote in the primaries. Agreed as usual. Trump is funnierthanamutherfucker. I just know that it won't be so funny in ten years
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On the flip side, I'm hoping the other candidates begin using softcore Porn Actresses like Ted Cruz. No wonder he approved that message.
He'd get more milage out of Sasha Grey but Cruz won't go there...Me yup
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On the flip side, I'm hoping the other candidates begin using softcore Porn Actresses like Ted Cruz. No wonder he approved that message.
Was it Trump's old lady? I could see a conflict of interest there. Was it yours?
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The Trump fire burns hot in you
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So.....who's the "perfect" candidate? Jeb?
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Perhaps, for some. Trump is in your face and many believe you are getting what you see. Cruz has that slick, polished, 'Safariman' type 'Christian' approach. Smiling whilst sticking it in your back.
That said, I still trust Cruz more to put in the RIGHT Supreme Court Justices, hence the reason he'll get my vote in the primaries. Agreed as usual. Trump is funnierthanamutherfucker. I just know that it won't be so funny in ten years I'd only give him two years in office before his supporters finally figure it out...
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So.....who's the "perfect" candidate? Jeb? Nobody
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Trump is completely different, and we haven't had a chance for a guy who is so off of the beaten path for 100+ years, if ever. This is your chance for voting against the status quo.
Someone earlier said Trump will shine the light on Washington and the bad deals that the American people are getting. I do believe that, and he will do it LOUDLY. That has needed to happen for a long time, and only an outsider can do it right.
Balls. The man has balls in a time of polite politik speak and political correctness. To get to the bottom of our social issues, we have to be able to openly say what the problem is and to actually get into the root of the issues. Trump calls a spade a spade without worry that doing so will crush him, like it would so many others. And do not doubt that it would be crushing any other politician on the stage to say what he has been saying for months.
He has unique capabilities, and I have no reason to believe I will ever be able to vote for another candidate like him. This is my chance as a voter to elect a brash, tough character who I do believe will have America's best interest at heart.
After what I've been getting from American politics, I'm willing to jump off of this bridge and hope for the best.
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So.....who's the "perfect" candidate? Jeb? Nobody Correct so go with the most conservative of the bunch,that's the best we can do
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]I'll vote for either Cruz or Trump if they are the man. I ain't going to overthink it.
This is what this election is about. Prevent Hillary or Bernie from taking over. If your car is out of control and headed off of a cliff, you have to hit the brakes before you can turn without flipping and dying in a wreck. Any of the GOP candidates are that brake. Slow this down and then you have a better chance of turning it around IF we pack Congress with like minded legislators.
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The Trump fire burns hot in you He's just proving my theory. Everybody is. That's okay too. Now that I understand it, I'm not so frustrated.
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Intuitively I'm a Cruz guy.
But as one Boston radio talk show host said the other day..."I like a guy who walks into the room and kicks the table over".
That's Trump.
I think Trump supporters (of a conservative bent) recognize he is not the ideal conservative candidate. But I think they are also shell shocked from being lied to by the Republican Party during the last eight years,and so, are gravitating to the nuclear option.
Angry? You bet. But what's funny is that Trump won NH in every single demographic group that they polled in exit polling...think about that.
Young, old, low, middle and upper income. College educated,high school educated,blue collar, white collar workers....even on ethnic and gender,he beat them all in every single category.
People want a change and they don't want a poised politician. They want hard nosed guy who will kick the table over. You, my friend, friggan NAILED it right there.
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That would all be wonderful if true...But Trump is like a young child pining for a puppy,he'll promise to walk,feed and care for it just give 'um a chance But we all know who will end up cleaning up crap
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Trump is completely different, and we haven't had a chance for a guy who is so off of the beaten path for 100+ years, if ever. This is your chance for voting against the status quo.
That happened the last two elections...how's that working out? Are you gonna deny that trump has boasted he's the only one that can make deals on both sides of the aisle??? YOU see that as a vote against the status quo???
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Intuitively I'm a Cruz guy.
But as one Boston radio talk show host said the other day..."I like a guy who walks into the room and kicks the table over".
That's Trump.
I think Trump supporters (of a conservative bent) recognize he is not the ideal conservative candidate. But I think they are also shell shocked from being lied to by the Republican Party during the last eight years,and so, are gravitating to the nuclear option.
Angry? You bet. But what's funny is that Trump won NH in every single demographic group that they polled in exit polling...think about that.
Young, old, low, middle and upper income. College educated,high school educated,blue collar, white collar workers....even on ethnic and gender,he beat them all in every single category.
People want a change and they don't want a poised politician. They want hard nosed guy who will kick the table over. You, my friend, friggan NAILED it right there. It was the same scenario in 2008 & again in 2012...if you want more of the same, go with your emotions...
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Intuitively I'm a Cruz guy.
But as one Boston radio talk show host said the other day..."I like a guy who walks into the room and kicks the table over".
That's Trump.
I think Trump supporters (of a conservative bent) recognize he is not the ideal conservative candidate. But I think they are also shell shocked from being lied to by the Republican Party during the last eight years,and so, are gravitating to the nuclear option.
Angry? You bet. But what's funny is that Trump won NH in every single demographic group that they polled in exit polling...think about that.
Young, old, low, middle and upper income. College educated,high school educated,blue collar, white collar workers....even on ethnic and gender,he beat them all in every single category.
People want a change and they don't want a poised politician. They want hard nosed guy who will kick the table over. This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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If defeating the Dems in the General is your prime motivation.... Trump ain't the one.
If the 2A is your prime motivation, Trump ain't the one.
If SC Justices is your main concern, Trump ain't the one.
Anyone with bit of sense knows these three things. It's not even a roll of the dice.
It is putting something else above these three concerns that explains his support from Conservative voters.
Maybe Pat nailed it, but I'm not convinced.
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