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Honestly it has been a very longtime since I have heard of someone tough enough to Backpack out overnight for two days in a row of Hunting and then Backpack out all their Gear + a Deer or Elk, or maybe a Moose. How about you guys?
Coming from a tinfoil hat wearing offroader, that's really not a surprise. Sorry, couldn't resist... your forum name is low hanging fruit.  Lol...you make a very good point and it's all good!  But seriously? How big can a Zone or District you were lucky enough to draw a tag in be that you can't just use road access and a Base Camp to hunt from? We have very large Zones out here and they can still be walked across in half a day. Why abuse yourself with an additional 40-50 Lb pack of gear? Alaska and Canada with very little road access maybe but here in the States?
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Honestly it has been a very longtime since I have heard of someone tough enough to Backpack out overnight for two days in a row of Hunting and then Backpack out all their Gear + a Deer or Elk, or maybe a Moose. How about you guys?
Coming from a tinfoil hat wearing offroader, that's really not a surprise. Sorry, couldn't resist... your forum name is low hanging fruit. Lol...you make a very good point and it's all good! But seriously? How big can a Zone or District you were lucky enough to draw a tag in be that you can't just use road access and a Base Camp to hunt from? We have very large Zones out here and they can still be walked across in half a day. Why abuse yourself with an additional 40-50 Lb pack of gear? Alaska and Canada with very little road access maybe but here in the States? Really? Walked across in 1/2 a day? That's not what I'd call "very large." Don't want to hunt where the good animals are? Ever heard of "Wilderness Area's?" BTW, even though many in AK are borderline aliens, it's still in the "state's." Me, I live in Montana... what do I know?
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Unless absolutely necessary, Back Packing is for mild Weather and only requires one Heavy Blanket and a Ground Tarp. LOL, don't tell my 55 year old wife that... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Great%20Falls%20Lakes%208-30-9-1-14/snowtents_zpsdh6m1ulw.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Great%20Falls%20Lakes%208-30-9-1-14/snowmorning_zpsr7qo3rei.jpg) Ten stream crossings, nice freezing water... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Great%20Falls%20Lakes%208-30-9-1-14/deb%20crossing_zpsm2h4bz3a.jpg) This is why I live in Arizona. Backpacking in Great Weather is actually just about year round for us. My Wife and I both grew up Camping from Horseback so we are no strangers to sleeping on the Ground without needing a Tent. Tents are just noisy.
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Why abuse yourself with an additional 40-50 Lb pack of gear? Alaska and Canada with very little road access maybe but here in the States? In lots of places the best hunting is 3-4 miles from the road. If you pack in, you eliminate a 6-8 mile round-trip in the dark. And can get to your hunting area earlier in the morning, and stay later in the evening.
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Here in the east ( Dacks), if you walk in 4-5 miles from the nearest road or trail, you can be pretty much assured of hunting day after day and never seeing a another human track. Carrying 40 pounds in is easy, even the 2-3 hours of sweat and pain coming out with the camp and boned out deer isn't all that bad. Moose or elk? I would want some friends
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Why abuse yourself with an additional 40-50 Lb pack of gear? Alaska and Canada with very little road access maybe but here in the States? In lots of places the best hunting is 3-4 miles from the road. If you pack in, you eliminate a 6-8 mile round-trip in the dark. And can get to your hunting area earlier in the morning, and stay later in the evening. So true... but I do wonder why so many car-campers visit a forum called "Backpack Hunting?"
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Here in the east ( Dacks), if you walk in 4-5 miles from the nearest road or trail, you can be pretty much assured of hunting day after day and never seeing a another human track. Carrying 40 pounds in is easy, even the 2-3 hours of sweat and pain coming out with the camp and boned out deer isn't all that bad. Moose or elk? I would want some friends Now this is more realistic in perspective. And what we Hunt here are LARGE Mule Deer and Elk. So even with a Mule Deer "completely boned" out we are still talking about 80 to 100 Lbs of Meat depending on how old it is plus your Gear. I agree that a Whitetail or Antelope would not be too bad under these circumstances of course. http://www.backcountrychronicles.com/mule-deer-pack-out-weight/
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Here in the east ( Dacks), if you walk in 4-5 miles from the nearest road or trail, you can be pretty much assured of hunting day after day and never seeing a another human track. Carrying 40 pounds in is easy, even the 2-3 hours of sweat and pain coming out with the camp and boned out deer isn't all that bad. Moose or elk? I would want some friends Though it's been decades ago, I've hunted the Dak's for deer and concur. And the ADK certainly can't be walked across in a 1/2 day! This year's backpack hunt. Solo, Wilderness Area. Granted, it was unseasonably warm for nearly November, but that's not always the case! An elk can be gotten out solo... it just takes more trips! The "noisy" tent: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Hunting/tent10.24.15_zpssrqvvikx.jpg) First load, somewhere in the 90lb range, and also somewhere near the end of my "fun" limit... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa326/bradmacmt/Hunting/pack10.24.15_zpsclavykmh.jpg)
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And a "hint," these kind of animals are not generally killed near roads...
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Now this is more realistic in perspective. And what we Hunt here are LARGE Mule Deer and Elk.
How do you know what's realistic if you've never done it? Lots of guys pack out elk solo. There's nothing "unrealistic" about it.
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And a "hint," these kind of animals are not generally killed near roads... I hunt in September and I always hear the same thing from the guys camped at the trailhead--various reasons why the bulls aren't bugling yet. 3-4 miles of separation from roads normally gets the bulls bugling.
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I know one thing...I can cover a lot of ground twice as fast even out 6 miles or more traveling light with only a Rifle, an empty Pack Frame, and minimal necessary sustenance.
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I bet I can cover more ground than you with a camp and 10 days of food on my back, and then not have to return to my jeep and warm Snuggie at night....
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Unless absolutely necessary, Back Packing is for mild Weather and only requires one Heavy Blanket and a Ground Tarp. "Backpacking is for mild weather...." Maybe back-packing is, but back-pack hunting sure isn't only for mild weather. tanner Don't feed him anything, please. Honestly it has been a very longtime since I have heard of someone tough enough to Backpack out overnight for two days in a row of Hunting and then Backpack out all their Gear + a Deer or Elk, or maybe a Moose. How about you guys? I set up Base Camp and sleep in the Cherokee and then venture out Hunting each day from there Myself. Packhorse aside, The Cherokee will travel anywhere any other mode of transportation is now legally limited to travel. I hope you hunt the units I do. I love road hunting tag holders and wish everyone would do it! I love your style. Great job!
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Takes about 100lbs to pack out a boned out sitka blacktail and all my camp gear. Not too bad.
Road hunters are awesome. I'd say 95% of hunters don't venture too far from the road, and for good reason.
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Takes about 100lbs to pack out a boned out sitka blacktail and all my camp gear. Not too bad.
Road hunters are awesome. I'd say 95% of hunters don't venture too far from the road, and for good reason. There's a statistic somewhere in Washington State that says 95% of the hunters stay within 3 mines of a paved surface.
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I know one thing...I can cover a lot of ground twice as fast even out 6 miles or more traveling light with only a Rifle, an empty Pack Frame, and minimal necessary sustenance. I can move faster with a light load too. I just prefer to do it a few miles away from the nearest road. And like all the others, I really appreciate your efforts to stay close to the road.
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Some guys will carry camp with them all the time and camp where they fall. Others will set up camp 3 or 4 miles in and hunt light from there. Both methods will get you away from most hunters. It's just a matter of preference.
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Ok I'll admit it...I guess I am indeed a Road Hunter and you are welcome.
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BTW, even though many in AK are borderline aliens, it's still in the "state's."
Lol.... so true.
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