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175 LRX adds BC and increases lower terminal velocity window. If your gun shoots them well you can't go wrong. If you value your meat or shoot something small, they go easy there. If you shoot something big, they penetrate plenty. Just FYI, the 168 TTSX opens up down to 1500 FPS according to Ryan with Barnes. It is an oddity.
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I've always wondered why they make a 165 and 168 TTSX?
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They do, shot a few head of PG with them out of my 300 Weatherby..
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They do, shot a few head of PG with them out of my 300 Weatherby.. Ha....so there we go! Nice! 
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I've always wondered why they make a 165 and 168 TTSX? Me too, but some "hunters are weird" they might shy from the 168
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I've always wondered why they make a 165 and 168 TTSX? Because a lot of guys spin turrets to 168 gr bullets in 308, 30-06 and 300 mags, guess that's why Barnes started making the 175's too. 
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My vote goes to the 168 grain TSX (or TTSX) for an all-around bullet. They have shot well in half a dozen 30-06s. Many years ago I spoke with Jack Carter, the maker of the original Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet. He told me that he thought the best bullet weight for the 30-06 was the 165 grain. Who am I to argue with him? I still have two boxes of 160 grain 7mm Bear Claw bullets.
I like the accuracy load of 57 grains of 4350 (your choice of brand) for an accurate and not hot load. You can always go a bit hotter if you like. I have not tried the 175 grain TSX. It might be even better if you are shooting long ranges. For the 175 or 180 grain bullets I like Ramshot Hunter.
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Careful, the "BC" Police doesn't chastise you.... The BC police hate the 165 Swift A-frame too...but boy do they work!
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Careful, the "BC" Police doesn't chastise you.... The BC police hate the 165 Swift A-frame too...but boy do they work! Why don't the police in British Columbia like Swift A frames?
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Because they all secretly hate Quinter, KS. 
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The cops are tough up here.........
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Careful, the "BC" Police doesn't chastise you.... The BC police hate the 165 Swift A-frame too...but boy do they work! Fu ck the BC police... Those little phuggers are almost as stupid as stick: ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/001-105_zps24af4785.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x401/chiefbsa/013_zpsaa2b4d1e.jpg) If you need high BC bullets to stay on target, there's probably something wrong with you AND your rifle... It's not only about bullets boys... Hint..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Ive been killing lots of stuff with little .22 cal Barnes bullets with almost nonexistent BC.... Glad the Police didn't catch me!
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I've even killed a bunch of big game using 180-grain .30-06 factory ammo that didn't even get 2700 fps. Believe it or not, some of the animals were more than 200 yards away, and the bullets didn't even have plastic tips!
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Now you're getting into fantasy, John. GD
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I've even killed a bunch of big game using 180-grain .30-06 factory ammo that didn't even get 2700 fps. Believe it or not, some of the animals were more than 200 yards away, and the bullets didn't even have plastic tips! This can't possibly be true.
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I have had real good success with Federal Power-Shok 180gr.soft point factory ammo, and for handloading Sierra 165gr. GK HPBT. I have just shot large bodied whitetails though, no elk or bear.
For the price, the Power-Shoks at wally-world are hard to beat. They are accurate and work well.
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Have you happened to chronograph that Federal ammo? If so what bbl length? TIA
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Earl,
I have chronographed the 30-06 180gr power-shok.
It was advertised to be 2700fps muzzle velocity and with my rifles 22" barrel at 10' it showed 3 shots from 2711 to 2719fps. The rifle is a savage 110. This rifle/ammo combination also shoots a 1" to 1.2" group at 100yds depending on my steadiness. It works fantastically on deer.
I don't know if the bullets are speer or sierra, maybe someone else here does.
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