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The Toyota will still be running long after the Ford and Chevy are in the bone yard.


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Originally Posted by Pahntr760
Had 3 in the past 2 month with scope base screws jacked up. That's one...aftermarket sucks, and I like to tinker. Trigger design will fail. Too much plastic and over priced plastic magazines.


You personally bought three of them in the past 2 months, or do you work in a gun shop?

If you personally bought them yourself, is your forehead bloody?


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
I just can't get over the metro-sexual styling that Browning seems wedded to these days; all those funny angles. In addition, the x-bolt seems overly complicated to me and I don't like the cutout in the stock for the magazine.

If you've got an x-bolt and like it, don't worry what the other kids think.


I agree about the styling. If nothing else, at least the old A-bolt Medallions were a good looking rifle.

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Got one in .308 that I've had for several years now. It's lightweight and accurate with a short bolt throw. Shoots 150g Hornady BTSP's into 1" @ 2880 fps. Hogs, deer, coyotes and bobcats didn't complain about being shot with 'gasp' an X-Bolt.


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Originally Posted by Bama_Rick
I don't have any personal experience with one, but a wise old gunsmith who built rifles for guys on here told me he refused to work on them. He worked on everything else.
IIRC, that was Mickey C... And, FWIW, I won't work on 'em either... smile



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I've got several, a 25-06, 308, 270, 7WSM. They all shoot great with no out of the box adjustments necessary.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Sylvaneous
Why no love for the X-Bolt?


Because Ruger, Remington, Savage, Kimber, Winchester, Howa and Weatherby still make rifles


Your inclusion of Salvage in that list speaks volumes.


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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Sylvaneous
Why no love for the X-Bolt?


Because Ruger, Remington, Savage, Kimber, Winchester, Howa and Weatherby still make rifles


You forgot Sako, CZ, Tikka, ....

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Originally Posted by Ken_L
This nothing more than a Ford, Chevy debate but the Browning is the Toyota and we all know how crappy they are...


After the Toyota experience I had, you're gonna need a better argument than that.

Might be atypical, like a Tikka that doesn't shoot, but for me it was a financial disaster at the worst possible time.


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Originally Posted by cra1948
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by Sylvaneous
Why no love for the X-Bolt?


Because Ruger, Remington, Savage, Kimber, Winchester, Howa and Weatherby still make rifles


You forgot Sako, CZ, Tikka, ....


No I didn't...


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There's a horror story out there about every product that has been around long enough but on average Toyota and Miroku make excellent products.


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Have had 4.

They just routinely killed stuff, were accurate as hell with most any bullet you can think of and never gave a minutes trouble.

But I hate 'em anyway. whistle

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Originally Posted by Ken_L
There's a horror story out there about every product that has been around long enough but on average Toyota and Miroku make excellent products.


Miroku makes better than decent shotguns. Most of Brownings other guns I happen to like a great deal, especially the BPS shotguns and the Buckmark pistols. It is not a brand issue with me, nor a Made in Japan issue... it is a ridiculously poorly designed action with a ton of shortcuts. Love the "bedding" with hotmelt glue!


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Ditto about Miroku. Whatever blame there may be goes to the Browning designers and "stylists". Gotta wonder what some of them are smoking.

The Miroku-manufactured "Winchesters" are outstanding. Some of the finish choices are a little shiny for my taste, but again, that's on the Browning designers.


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Originally Posted by Pappy348
Ditto about Miroku. Whatever blame there may be goes to the Browning designers and "stylists". Gotta wonder what some of them are smoking.

The Miroku-manufactured "Winchesters" are outstanding. Some of the finish choices are a little shiny for my taste, but again, that's on the Browning designers.


I agree completely.


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Originally Posted by Sitka deer
... it is a ridiculously poorly designed action with a ton of shortcuts. Love the "bedding" with hotmelt glue!
Don't forget the six parts they figger to run the safety..

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Well at least Browning hasn't had as many issues with their triggers and safeties as Remington! Not to mention lawsuits.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by Sitka deer
... it is a ridiculously poorly designed action with a ton of shortcuts. Love the "bedding" with hotmelt glue!
Don't forget the six parts they figger to run the safety..

crazy


Nothing like a bunch of questionable metalurgy and excess parts to create the KISS of death for that rifle.

Isn't your biggest beef with working on them the glue between action and barrel?


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I've had a lot of them apart. Re-bed most of them, but they all shot fine.

I do the same with other factory bedded rifles. Have bedded a few rifles for friends and never had a customer complain...


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