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Only problem I have had is mine keeps on running and killin critters.

Anecdotal evidence based on a sample size of one... compelling!

I've seen a Remington 700 completely shut down by a single grain of sand trapped in the trigger housing. About the only brand of firearm I don't have any of in my house is Remington. You couldn't give me any of their junk. I don't know much about A-Bolts but I do like and own several Brownings. The A-bolts just never appealed to me in the least.

Just like my sample of 1 870 Remington, now my shotgun collection contains no Remingtons. Compelling huh?

Anything can happen once... it is more telling when numerous reports come in from different areas and reporters.

Wow! One whole Remington lemon and you are positive the Whole World is looking at you!

There are far fewer A- and X-Borts out there than there are 700s... orders of magnitude differences in count. Why be surprised when they find a bad one.

But then you bad-mouth Remington pumps?!?! You do realize the 870 is the most used shotgun don't you? The militaries of a lot of countries, cops everywhere, and lots of farm boys use those nasty old 870s and they get the job done.

Have you ever heard of any real tweaking on an 870? Why divert the focus to a firearm that sets well above average in every category?

Oh yeah, that would be to get away from the argument you have no chance of winning.

If Remington 700's are such junk you would think the prices would come down instead of up. Apparently not many realize they are junk.

You mean like all the reports from around the country of 700's going off when the safety is disengaged ? Or all the reports of bolt handles coming off ? I've seen a couple of those myself too.

Have you ever owned a browning gun? You cant even speak from actual product expereince I bet.

I've owned rem 788's, 600's, two 700,s 760s, 7600, Nylon 66, and 2 870s. They are not perfect guns.
Warranty recalls on the 600
The 788 had bolt handle issues.
One 700 was great (old ADL) and new 700 mtn lss SS required work. Add the current xmark trigger and safety issues in there...
760s and 7600s had magazine finicky issues and parts that break
Nylon 66 had a defective magazine tube from the factory that wouldn't even let it latch close.
And the 870s were not bad, but watching the stuff in the last 10 years with magazine tube issues, walking out action pins, rusting finish on the expresses...
The remington autoloaders are under constant redesign because of flaws in the the 11-87s being jamomatics and the vesamax hasn't done much better.

Big greens value engineering has really hurt them. Dont even start with what they did to the marlin lever action..

So yea.. My last Remington bolt with its warranty issues has convinced me not to buy anymore. Sure they sell a lot of 700s in price point plastic.. The stainless steel barrels rust from finger prints in the stores from handling.. X-mark triggers. Just because they make a lot doesnt allow for such high volumes of failures and poor product quality.

You read how everyone loves their 700's on this forum, but they tweak the heck out of them. I had to do it on remingtons warranty dime.

So far I am damn happy with my x-bolt and would recommend it far above a Remington. You may spend a little more, but you wont be paying for fixes like your Remington.

Yea.. Big green quality ins't what it used to be. Im am very happy with my browning rifle and shotguns after several episodes of sub par Remington performance going across shotgun, rimfire, and centerfire rifle products.

I still have my one 700 and the 600 so they are decent enough products once you get them tweaked. I cant believe I was dealing with a recall on the 600 on its trigger.. that was a 40 year old design... how long have they been doing sub-par product design?

At least you spelled A-Bort correctly...

Can we discuss facts, pros and cons, and not have superficial pi$$ing contests.

Can we discuss facts, pros and cons, and not have superficial pi$$ing contests.

Dear Sitka Deer,

I have owned two Rem 700s, an SPS stainless and a Mountain Guide. Neither shot worth a darn out of the box. A very good group was 1.75 - 2". Bought new stocks - had them bedded, eventually bought both new barrels and now have had Timneys put on both due to my wife's 7-08AI firing when she was taking the safety off last fall. They were both in the trigger recall population.

I also have purchased two X-bolts in the past 3 years. Both are out of the box 3/4 to 1" rifles with good handloads and shoot almost everything 1.25" or less. They feed flawlessly with a full mag, unlike the Rems that often got bound upwith more than two in the mag.

There is really no comparison in my opinion.

Respectfully,

Greg Bradley,"bludog"