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To be way cool, you have to have a 275 H&H, 275 Rigby, 270 Savage and a 277 ICL Flying Saucer. The Bbl on my #1 is marked 275 Rigby Improved - is that cool??
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I own three P-64-70 Fwts in .270, two Brno21Hs in .280, one HVA-Kreiger in .280 and one Kimber MA 84L in .280AI, prefer 150NPs-.270, and 160NPs in all four .280s.
Cannot tell ANY difference in effect on any BC animals and there are NO "better" rounds with good bullets for BC hunting, but, I do like a CRF .338WM-250NP for solo hunting in Grizzly country.
It is best to have several of both and a few .338s, too. Best post so far. I agree with Dewey.. Especially the 338 parts  My first "real" rifle was a Pushfeed M70 Featherweight in 280. Great rifle, great cartridge but I soon rationalized myself over to a 7mag and then further rationalized myself into a 270win. Really I think the 280 is great but I have always had two sides to rifle cartridge selection. One where I don't mind having hard to obtain or wildcat cartridges I find interesting and the other having a mainstay of no nonsense mainstream cartridges. That is where and why I floated over to the 270 over the 280. Fans of 7mm often criticizes the .277" for having bullets with poor BC, but all calibers and catagories of high BC bullets can be ordinally ranked and the 7mm can be criticized as not at the top of the heap as well. The long range community is driven by two factors: fear and paranoia, and largely don't represent the vast majority of hunters. This is because people don't worry that if they choose a 270 thier Magic bullet will stop working at 620 yards as opposed to 680 yards had they picked the 280.
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I own three P-64-70 Fwts in .270, two Brno21Hs in .280, one HVA-Kreiger in .280 and one Kimber MA 84L in .280AI, prefer 150NPs-.270, and 160NPs in all four .280s.
Cannot tell ANY difference in effect on any BC animals and there are NO "better" rounds with good bullets for BC hunting, but, I do like a CRF .338WM-250NP for solo hunting in Grizzly country.
It is best to have several of both and a few .338s, too. Best post so far. I agree with Dewey.. Especially the 338 parts My first "real" rifle was a Pushfeed M70 Featherweight in 280. Great rifle, great cartridge but I soon rationalized myself over to a 7mag and then further rationalized myself into a 270win. Really I think the 280 is great but I have always had two sides to rifle cartridge selection. One where I don't mind having hard to obtain or wildcat cartridges I find interesting and the other having a mainstay of no nonsense mainstream cartridges. That is where and why I floated over to the 270 over the 280. Fans of 7mm often criticizes the .277" for having bullets with poor BC, but all calibers and catagories of high BC bullets can be ordinally ranked and the 7mm can be criticized as not at the top of the heap as well. The long range community is driven by two factors: fear and paranoia, and largely don't represent the vast majority of hunters. This is because people don't worry that if they choose a 270 thier Magic bullet will stop working at 620 yards as opposed to 680 yards had they picked the 280. Great post. True!
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Just don,t go hunting with a 270 and a 280 and get your ammo mixed up. Shot a 270 that was in my 280 ammo can pieces of primer in my nose and face. Wearing glasses luckily but now want to paint case head to never make that mistake again.
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Just don,t go hunting with a 270 and a 280 and get your ammo mixed up. Shot a 270 that was in my 280 ammo can pieces of primer in my nose and face. Wearing glasses luckily but now want to paint case head to never make that mistake again.
Seen that one happen. You gotta watch it.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Just don,t go hunting with a 270 and a 280 and get your ammo mixed up. Shot a 270 that was in my 280 ammo can pieces of primer in my nose and face. Wearing glasses luckily but now want to paint case head to never make that mistake again.
Seen that one happen. You gotta watch it. One of the reasons I'm leery about buying a 280...
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Just don,t go hunting with a 270 and a 280 and get your ammo mixed up. Shot a 270 that was in my 280 ammo can pieces of primer in my nose and face. Wearing glasses luckily but now want to paint case head to never make that mistake again.
Seen that one happen. You gotta watch it. This is funny. When I had my 280 I was living remote in Ak. Just about every family member that bought me ammo or components, bought me 270 stuff. "Never heard" of a 280. I had boxes of 270 ammo before I got my 270. All is well, I used my 458 on just about everything anyways.
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Don't call it a comeback
I been here for years
Rockin my peers and puttin suckas in fear
Makin the tears rain down like a MON-soon
Listen to the bass go BOOM
It's only as complicated as you wanna make it. Hardest part is admitting you got duped.
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I refuse to participate in this wanton waste of e-ink! 🤐
What fresh Hell is this?
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The great debate...
Science might say 280 is easier to get the spin you need on longer projectiles for long reach.
Most of the squids only shoot ink so far, and under a certain distance BC and spin... Who cares.
So - it's a how far do you shoot type question to me... And the answer only become relevant if you shoot in the longer window.
That and all 270 bullets come in rainbow colors...
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To be way cool, you have to have a 275 H&H, 275 Rigby, 270 Savage and a 277 ICL Flying Saucer. The Bbl on my #1 is marked 275 Rigby Improved - is that cool?? Waaaay cool kinda like my 1B marked 35 Whelen.
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It's only as complicated as you wanna make it. Hardest part is admitting you got duped.
This rings true to me. I'm relatively new to the rifle loonie camp. I still find my self trying to justify a 7 Rem when I have an -06. Or a 6.5CM when I have a 7mm/08. Or X over Y, but Then I go look at a ballistics table and realize there is no practical difference. Or, I look in the safe and see its full.
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The great debate...
Science might say 280 is easier to get the spin you need on longer projectiles for long reach.
Most of the squids only shoot ink so far, and under a certain distance BC and spin... Who cares.
So - it's a how far do you shoot type question to me... And the answer only become relevant if you shoot in the longer window.
That and all 270 bullets come in rainbow colors... Hardest part is admitting you got duped.
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It's only as complicated as you wanna make it. Hardest part is admitting you got duped.
This rings true to me. I'm relatively new to the rifle loonie camp. I still find my self trying to justify a 7 Rem when I have an -06. Or a 6.5CM when I have a 7mm/08. Or X over Y, but Then I go look at a ballistics table and realize there is no practical difference. Or, I look in the safe and see its full. Pack up and leave camp. Save yourself!!
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I have one foot in and one foot out. It's a tough addiction to kick.
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Don't make a hill of beans worth of difference unless, for some reason beyond your control, you need to purchase ammo in B F nowheresville.
Why does a man who is 50 pounds overweight complain about a 10 pound rifle being too heavy?
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270's best for coyotes and smaller. Otherwise it is clearly inferior.
I prefer classic.
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Have you .270 guys read Craig Boddington's article on the .270 Winchester that is in the current issue of American Rifleman, May 2016? Be careful you may wet your pants. 
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Have you .270 guys read Craig Boddington's article on the .270 Winchester that is in the current issue of American Rifleman, May 2016? Be careful you may wet your pants. Did you notice that the case diagram labeled 270 Winchester is NOT...it's a 30-06!!! LOL They do bring up a valid point in that one though...the reason the .264 Winnie never caught on was because it(or the 7mm Rem Mag, but that one did get just a little bit popular) won't really do anything in the field that a 270 won't do(except burn more powder, but I digress). The same applies to the 280...just ain't enough difference to matter.
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