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Why can't they just get along?
.280 - will you promise to not start outselling the .270 and drive it into obsolescence?
.270 - will you accept that some gun loonies, being loonies, won't listen to arguments about popularity, ammo availability, standard pressures, yadda, yadda, yadda, and just want something different?
Oh, and 30/06, please let the little guys work this out alone.
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No comparison, 270 hands down....
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
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All 3, including the 30-06 are in my safe at the moment. I don't hear any fighting going on in there!
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No comparison, 270 hands down.... (Yawn) that didn't take long
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Ok, we'll take the wizzums and the SAUMs, but not the 270s!
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All 3, including the 30-06 are in my safe at the moment. I don't hear any fighting going on in there! An enlightened, intelligent loonie?
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No comparison, 270 hands down.... Don't know why you say hands down ballistics wise there virtually the same. IMHO it comes down to personal preference, I bought a 280 back in the mid 80's for 2 reasons there were a million 270 out there and bullet selection and I wanted something different. It work great for me for many years.
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Geezus....not this again.....  
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Yep, not much difference. Now the 280 AI on the other hand...
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Geezus....not this again..... Yeah, had to do it, now the game is see how many take it too seriously.
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Can someone explain why there was a need for a reamer/mandrel/Boolit/Bbl-bore with a diameter .007 less than one already on the shelf?
What does that -.007 'DO' ?
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Gotta say I have owned a number of both and with the bullets we have today both are very capable rounds. Killed my first elk with a .270 handloader with 150 grain nosler partition bullets. Worked just fine. Killed a bunch with a 280 rem. Mostly deer and with 139 grain Hornady bullets all drt. Folks talk about 160-175 grain with a .280 which is true . In my mind a guy can't go wrong with either choice. Lots more factory ammo choices available for the .270. Happy hunting.
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Have had both, only have the .270 Win now. Wouldn't hesitate to try the .280 Rem again if the right deal came along. I'm just not that worried about things right now to seek one out.
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The 280 is what the '06 should have been in the first place...
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Can someone explain why there was a need for a reamer/mandrel/Boolit/Bbl-bore with a diameter .007 less than one already on the shelf?
What does that -.007 'DO' ? Wondered that myself. Came across one explanation (forget where) that said when Winchester was developing the new cartridge they figured Americans were still a little sensitive about getting shot at by "European" 7 and 8 mm stuff so they made sure to develop a new non-metric caliber. Don't know if true, but its a story.
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If Winchester goes with .284 back in 1925 .277 might never have been developed. And the 6.5-06 might be a regular factory option. That would be a win-win for everybody. 
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I own three P-64-70 Fwts in .270, two Brno21Hs in .280, one HVA-Kreiger in .280 and one Kimber MA 84L in .280AI, prefer 150NPs-.270, and 160NPs in all four .280s.
Cannot tell ANY difference in effect on any BC animals and there are NO "better" rounds with good bullets for BC hunting, but, I do like a CRF .338WM-250NP for solo hunting in Grizzly country.
It is best to have several of both and a few .338s, too.
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Why can't they just get along?
.280 - will you promise to not start outselling the .270 and drive it into obsolescence?
.270 - will you accept that some gun loonies, being loonies, won't listen to arguments about popularity, ammo availability, standard pressures, yadda, yadda, yadda, and just want something different?
Oh, and 30/06, please let the little guys work this out alone. I get what you are saying. The good ol 30-06 is always the sensible one... 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I own three P-64-70 Fwts in .270, two Brno21Hs in .280, one HVA-Kreiger in .280 and one Kimber MA 84L in .280AI, prefer 150NPs-.270, and 160NPs in all four .280s.
Cannot tell ANY difference in effect on any BC animals and there are NO "better" rounds with good bullets for BC hunting, but, I do like a CRF .338WM-250NP for solo hunting in Grizzly country.
It is best to have several of both and a few .338s, too. Best post so far. I agree with Dewey..
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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To be way cool, you have to have a 275 H&H, 275 Rigby, 270 Savage and a 277 ICL Flying Saucer.
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