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My wife just got an offer to subscribe to Field and Stream for a year for $8.00 "Senior Discount."


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All print media is hurting since this internet came out.

Here in CT a cities newspaper building is for sale. There is no paperboy.

I used to subscribe to mag's like Rifle, Handloader and before that to Outdoor Life, Field and Stream etc. along with 'Sail' for boating and Road and Track etc for cars.

The Rifleman and Am. Hunter still come with the NRA memberships.

We can do a search on the net for what we are interested in.

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Guns And Ammo, $6.00/year $.50/issue...


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Guns And Ammo, $6.00/year $.50/issue...


Shades of the mid '60's off the magazine rack at the "Tote Sum" quick stop.


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Things are a little tougher in the magazine business these days, but the largest circulation magazines (such as F&S and G&A) have offered very cheap subscriptions for many years. They make a large part of their money on advertising, and ad rates increase with circulation.

Which is why smaller magazines normally charge a lot more for subscriptions: They don't make as much on advertising, so depend more on subscription income, plus selling individual copies in stores.


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
Guns And Ammo, $6.00/year $.50/issue...



About 10 times what it's worth, to my notions. It hasn't been worth a dime since Cooper left the first time. Last time I read one, they did something called "shooter's impressions" and had four or five of their staff writers write glowing reports on what was clearly a hunkajunk.

That was the last time I even looked at one.


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
... The Rifleman and Am. Hunter still come with the NRA memberships...


Three renewals back, I got brave and did it online. In a clever attempt to catch people who didn't read the whole form, the default choice for the magazine subscription was to get the bleeping, damned online version. If you wanted a for-real, honest-to-God magazine, you had to change the choice. This I did, but then messed up something on the form and had to begin again. Lacking in basic intelligence, I thought that previous information (the choice of a magazine) would stay the same. Of course, I was wrong. In the two renewals since, filled out on paper at gun shows, I have indicated my desire for a magazine to hold in my hands. I continue to receive the bleeping, damned online version.


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The bargain of the year, though, has to be getting the .pdf version of Rifle, Successful Hunter and Handloader for $14.95 a year!

I keep my copies on my laptop's hard drive and never have to worry about the magazines stacking up in the corner. Plus, I can take a break from work any time I want and open up a copy from 3 years ago!


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Get those bargain offers every week. Sometimes I bite, but I seldom renew.
Too little of the content is of interest to me anymore. JB is all over, and his stuff is always good, but even he can't carry an entire magazine. Unless I'm careful, I blow through a typical monthly in about 15 minutes. Rifle takes longer, because I stretch it out. Handloader seems to be the meatiest, and if forced to choose just one, it would be that one. I also look forward to the Hodgdon annual.

One good thing about the Hodgdon annual is that you can compare test results from real guns in the articles with the test barrel figures in the data section.


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czech1022,

Yeah, the on-line subscriptions are a good deal for the smaller magazines that tend to charge more for subscriptions. They're a LOT cheaper because the company doesn't have to pay for printing or snail-mailing.

Another very good bargain is GUNS magazine, which doesn't charge anything for on-line copies. They just post them every month on their website.


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It seems like any more there's about 3-4 articles and the rest is pure advertising. You shouldn't have to turn 20 pages to get to the first article. The field reports are interesting to read, but one has to wonder to what degree they are pandering to their advertisers.


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I must be in the minority. I currently subscribe to FS, OL, Rifle, Hand Loader, Peterson's, Successful Hunter, and Sports Afield...plus the NRA rag. Honestly I enjoy all of them. I think Petzal in particular is a brilliant writer and thoroughly enjoyable to read...though I don't always agree with him. JB is fantastic of course. One writer i truly miss is Jim Carmicheal from OL. He was great...the new guy isn't bad either.

I also enjoyed reading Greg Rodriguez immensely and very sad to hear of his murder.


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Articles like this may be why readers have left the magazines...

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Not to mention credibility being in theshitter. Everything they test is better than everything they tested on the previous article, then it will change again.


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I subscribe to a few outdoor/hunting mags.

The part I hate the most is that you can't get an honest review anymore. Because these writers are getting the equipment for free, and they don't want to get cutoff, they give glowing reviews.

While a few will still give an honest, or close to honest review, most are just doing it for the "freebies".

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I won't say that never happens, but I doubt it's widespread. Many times I've read reviews where the writer closes by saying they liked something enough to send a check instead or returning the gun, and since the guns are used, they may well get a deal on price, but that ain't free. If you're reading stuff that's obviously biased or misses obvious faults, you need to find some better magazines.



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Shrapnel,

I remember that article! Circa 2001?


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Owl,

In my experience, "freebies" in non-expendable stuff like firearms and optics were far more common before Barack Obama became the greatest-ever salesman for the shooting industry. Nowadays manufacturers don't have to be that generous, because shooters are still buying LOTS of stuff, and that will continue if a Democrat is elected president this fall.

Instead, some (but not all) magazines run very favorable reviews of equipment because it's harder to sell advertising these days, thanks to the impetus Obama has provided to the entire industry. So some magazines run favorable reviews to entice manufacturers to continue advertising.

As far as expendable items like ammo, bullets and powder, manufacturers will provide free samples IF they have any. For a while it's been a crapshoot whether even they will have any on hand, the reason some gun writers (especially those who do it for most or all of their living) have been buying ammo, powder, bullets, etc. over the past few years, "hoarding" it to be sure they can have some on hand when they need it for an assignment.


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Now I know where all the TAC and Big Game is...............(grin).


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Shrapnel,

I remember that article! Circa 2001?


This is the cover in October 1995, and Carmichael was a clown to have written it and the editors were worse for not catching the huge mistakes...

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