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Soldier of Fortune is no longer in print either digital only.
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry
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That aim has been the cause of many a "I know I hit him tight behind the shoulder but he ran. Can you help me track him? I knew a 243 wasn't enough gun!" scenario.
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry The cover isn't the problem, check that shot placement on the buck running over the horizon... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/gun%20related%20items%20and%20articles/Outdoor%20Life%20Scan%20%20e.jpg)
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That's a very dangerous shot with the bullet going over the horizon! 
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Shrapnel,
I remember that article! Circa 2001? This is the cover in October 1995, and Carmichael was a clown to have written it and the editors were worse for not catching the huge mistakes... ![[Linked Image]](http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/bridgershooters/gun%20related%20items%20and%20articles/Outdoor%20Life%20Scan%20%20%20a.jpg) Dang! I guess more time has passed by than I thought!!! I can remember putting little "aim dots" on the page of that article with a ball point pen. Doesn't seem like 21 years ago though!!!
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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That's a very dangerous shot with the bullet going over the horizon! That may be your best 'fire post ever. No joke.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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That's a very dangerous shot with the bullet going over the horizon! That may be your best 'fire post ever. No joke. I would add 1 qualifier : GIVEN that you hit the buck well, the bullet would lose most of its steam plus be deformed and would not travel far::: The DANGER would be a MISSED shot, then...... Jerry
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That aim been the cause of many a "I know I hit him tight behind the shoulder but he ran. Can you help me track him? I knew a 243 wasn't enough gun!" scenario. YEP......how do I know ? Heard it moreN once!! Jerry
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We can do a search on the net for what we are interested in. And the prose rivals Hemingway, as you so often demonstrate.
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One of my favorites was a article testing different camo patterns. The accompanying photos showed some guy sitting up against a tree in what was obviously in a big patch of poison ivy. When it was pointed out to them in the letters to the editor and the outdoor qualifications questioned of anybody that would knowingly do that, in the next months edition they had some lame response trying to justify the picture. Of course all of the camo in the article patterns were outstanding as they obviously pandered to their advertisers.
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One of my favorites was a article testing different camo patterns. The accompanying photos showed some guy sitting up against a tree in what was obviously in a big patch of poison ivy. When it was pointed out to them in the letters to the editor and the outdoor qualifications questioned of anybody that would knowingly do that, in the next months edition they had some lame response trying to justify the picture. Of course all of the camo in the article patterns were outstanding as they obviously pandered to their advertisers. I've set up in poison ivy before as I'm not allergic to it. From what I've read about 1/3rd of people aren't.
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I was looking at a 2011 copy of Handloader,124 pages.The last one I bought 64 pages.Hardly worth the time to open the cover.Sports Afield is about all I buy anymore.I used to subscribe to.Handloader,Rifle,Accurate Rifle,Precision Shooter,Varmint Hunter.Now I just read JBs books.
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I don't get any of them anymore. I still get NRA magazines as they just come. I never have time to read them.
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry So, where would you guys aim on this particular instance? I'm thinking about 4 to 5 inches right and about 2 inches low.
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry So, where would you guys aim on this particular instance? I'm thinking about 4 to 5 inches right and about 2 inches low. I need to do some new bullet testing this summer and if I had a large stack of those old magazines I would aim pretty much dead center 
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry So, where would you guys aim on this particular instance? I'm thinking about 4 to 5 inches right and about 2 inches low. It's hard to tell 'exactly' from just a pic. The distance from you to the deer - alters the measurement - on the deer. That said, notice the distance between the front legs. That indicates the deer is standing at a pretty good angle. I would aim for the 'point' of the shoulder and destruction (explosion) of tissue + the bullet would get BOTH lungs and might transmit enuff shock to the shoulder/backbone to DRT. It's hard to put to words but that's what I'd do. Jerry
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I get the NRA magazine as a member, but read it while standing over the trash can. Flip through from beginning to end and then drop it into the can. That's all it's good for most of the time. Occasionally, they'll have a good historical piece that is worth a few more minutes.
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.....and Harris Publications is shutting down. That's a huge chunk of the gun magazine biz.
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That would NOT be my preferred placement. Jerry So, where would you guys aim on this particular instance? I'm thinking about 4 to 5 inches right and about 2 inches low. It's hard to tell 'exactly' from just a pic. The distance from you to the deer - alters the measurement - on the deer. That said, notice the distance between the front legs. That indicates the deer is standing at a pretty good angle. I would aim for the 'point' of the shoulder and destruction (explosion) of tissue + the bullet would get BOTH lungs and might transmit enuff shock to the shoulder/backbone to DRT. It's hard to put to words but that's what I'd do. Jerry Maybe there was a full value wind from the port side
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