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Dang, we had a case of Colt 45 Malt Liquor over on our side of the ridge.



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Lot of good thoughts posted on this.
I think most guys want to be a good client, hunt well, and pitch in, and tip appropriately.
My though was that the nature of guided hunting is such that there often might not be much middle ground.

Most, or perhaps many, hunts probably allow a guy to cross one item off his lifetime bucket list. In the process probably share a very cool experience with the guide and would want to show gratitude for that.

On those unfortunate occasions where it goes the other way - leaky tent, lame horse, outfitters freeloading buddies along, confronting other outfitters or DIYers for an area, etc. then a customer may have strong feelings the opposite way.

Bagging an animal or not may very well be incidental to the service provided.

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Alamosa,

I guess I'm not sophisticated enough for bagging the animal to "be incidental to the service provided." If I wanted to socialize I could go to a club or church.


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Originally Posted by Ringman
Alamosa,

I guess I'm not sophisticated enough for bagging the animal to "be incidental to the service provided." If I wanted to socialize I could go to a club or church.


You are going too far with it.
I cut 'em some slack but I'm not completely ambivalent.
Anybody, well almost anybody, is going to check into their success chances with a service before they sign on.
There is only one place I've ever heard of that is not high fence that guarantees success and it was some sort of guided Indian reservation deal. I'll bet they don't do it any longer.
Suppose I was to take it to the extreme the way you did?
Would you tip them nothing if you didn't punch your tag?

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Alamosa,

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You are going too far with it.


Okay. That's just me. When I made a .224 wildcat a friend told me, "You should call it .220 Extremist because you're an extremist."


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Which one of you guys wants to open a hamburger joint and charge $1.00 a burger, hoping the tips cover the rest your needs? Ridiculous approach.

If tips are mandatory for your guides success they're not tips.


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Fireball,

Try to keep up with us. The owner/proprietor of the business rarely will get tipped. But, his employees will. As the owner of a guide business, I would expect no tip. As an employee of a guide business, tips would be a big factor for me in deciding whether or not I was going to guide or not.


So, it'd be like opening a hamburger joint, paying your waitresses a low wage, and the tips making it worthwhile for the waitress to keep working there. So yeah, it's exactly like a hamburger joint that has waitresses. BTW, the federal minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
BTW, the federal minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour.


Hamburger joints should not have waitresses. 'Cause fireball doesn't want to tip.



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I knew Oregon was different, but I didn't know it was THAT different... Jiminy Christmas....

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BTW, the federal minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour. [/quote]


You do understand that 2.13 is the minimum amount that they can pay but if the waiter/ waitress wage plus tips does not equal the $7.65 minimum the owner must make up the difference.

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I generally tip 30%. I hope they're not relying on it.


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No they rely on the $2.13/hour. It really adds up.



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Originally Posted by bangeye
BTW, the federal minimum wage for servers is $2.13 an hour.



You do understand that 2.13 is the minimum amount that they can pay but if the waiter/ waitress wage plus tips does not equal the $7.65 minimum the owner must make up the difference.[/quote]

Thanks for making my point. The owner of the business and the waitress relies on the tips for a good portion of the servers salary. Just like the owner of the guide business relies on tips to make a good portion of the hired guides salary.

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