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http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,188769.0.html

The thread is a mess, but all the information is in there.

Skip to page 46 Reply # 1126 if you want to start with the post that let the cat out of the bag. Those of us who already knew were keeping it quiet and waiting for the Prosecutor's Office to announce it. But here it is.

Re: raffle tag bull-poached?
« Reply #1126 on: April 30, 2016, 08:17:22 PM »
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Someone has an arraignment for one count of Big Game Hunt 2nd degree under RCW 77.15.410.1. It's on May 9, 2016 at 8:30 AM in Lower Kittitas District Court. Looks like his notice was returned so he may have not received his arraignment notice. I hope one of his buddies on here tells him so his attorney can waive arraignment so he doesn't have to go over or get a warrant. The charge is under subsection (1) below:

RCW 77.15.410
Unlawful hunting of big game—Penalty.
(1) A person is guilty of unlawful hunting of big game in the second degree if the person:
(a) Hunts for, takes, or possesses big game and the person does not have and possess all licenses, tags, or permits required under this title; or
(b) Violates any department rule regarding seasons, bag or possession limits, closed areas including game reserves, closed times, or any other rule governing the hunting, taking, or possession of big game.
(2) A person is guilty of unlawful hunting of big game in the first degree if the person commits the act described in subsection (1) of this section and:
(a) The person hunts for, takes, or possesses three or more big game animals within the same course of events; or
(b) The act occurs within five years of the date of a prior conviction under this title involving unlawful hunting, killing, possessing, or taking big game.
(3)(a) Unlawful hunting of big game in the second degree is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction of an offense involving killing or possession of big game taken during a closed season, closed area, without the proper license, tag, or permit using an unlawful method, or in excess of the bag or possession limit, the department shall revoke all of the person's hunting licenses and tags and order a suspension of the person's hunting privileges for two years.
(b) Unlawful hunting of big game in the first degree is a class C felony. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke all of the person's hunting licenses or tags and order the person's hunting privileges suspended for ten years.
(4) For the purposes of this section, "same course of events" means within one twenty-four hour period, or a pattern of conduct composed of a series of acts that are unlawful under subsection (1) of this section, over a period of time evidencing a continuity of purpose.

Bro, we need a reader's digest synopsis.

He shot a 400+ elk in a GMU closed to branch antler bull hunting.

I know the thread is a mess, a long hot mess, but I just don't have it in me at this time to post a synopsis at this time.

This is going to reverberate throughout the hunting comunity once word gets out.

Hopefully the threads we had that are much more concise, that were locked or secreted away out of the public view, will be back soon.

Bottom line is if convicted this offense invokes IWVC and that means a two year minimum time out from buying Auction Tags.

By the way, he purchased the E Washington & the Pennsylvania 2016 tags at the RMEF Banquet a couple weeks ago.

I don't have time to figure out what that's all about.

I know. I am sorry. I will try to put something short together when I get time, but that will be a few days at least.

WTF is this some kind of mystery game?

No, not at all - to get up to speed on his history, if you don't recognize the name do an internet search and type in Todd Reichert Elk and the search engine will suggest:

Related searches
Tod Reichert Illegal Elk
New World Record Elk
Biggest Elk in the World

This guy has been participating in Tag Auctions for a long time.

He and Jon Wick were also charged w/multiple gross misdemeanors and felonies related to a hunt in Washington's Blue Mountains in 2007 in which he used the Washington Governor's Auction Tag. Both plead guilty in 2012 to some of the charges and others were dismissed. You can search this case online and get up to speed on it.

Last year Mr Reichert bought one Washington State Auction Tag and won a three species SE Washington Raffle Tag and then proceeded to kill a monster bull in GMU 334, Ellensburg, which is closed to branch antler bull hunting specifically excluded from the areas in which Mr Reicherts tag was valid for.

The info is spread throughout the thread I linked to and it is a hot mess. There were/are other threads that were nuked and some should/may reappear when/after it is possible to make sure they do not contain any libelous or other actionable postings in them.

As of the 21st Mr Reichert has been charged w/Unlawful Taking of Big Game II and if found guilty or pleads out that will invoke the IWVC suspension of hunting privileges.

Only in a place like WA would an auction tag not be good statewide.

Ain't that the truth.

You should see the fishing regs if you want a real laugh. Throw the wagon burners in the mix and it's a regular goat rodeo.

It is a Raffle Tag, not an Auction Tag, and it is good for any area that is open to hunting of branched antler bulls statewide:

(a) Season dates: September 1 - December 31

(b) Hunt Area: Eastern Washington EXCEPT GMU 157, those GMUs closed to elk hunting, and those GMUs not opened to branch antlered bull elk hunting by the fish and wildlife commission.

FWIW, this same guy did purchase one of the Auction Tags in 2015 too. If anybody should be intimately familiar with this restriction, it would be this guy.

"Here is the bull after it was shot and hauled off whole, then placed in a open unit for pics and dressing. Also a pic of the rack."

Photos of bull on post 428, 429 & the Auction Tag bull he shot in 2015 in another area is posted in post #437

It sounds like a light penalty for a trophy elk and repeat offenses.
Was he actually charged and is there credible evidence?

Charges were filed on the 21st of April. The evidence is very solid. It will take some fancy legal footwork to get him out of this. He has retained a heavy hitter out of Spokane to represent him. To get it up to First degree would have been a non-starter and then he isn't a "repeat offender" because he negotiated a non game violation plea deal on the 2007 case. The best we can hope for is two years of suspended privileges and accompanying IWVC. The Prosecutor's Office seems to be cognizant that the sportsmen of the State are for the most part furious and also that they see the IWVC hit as what it will take to get this behavior stopped.

In my state the Samson law would attach a $20K fine to a trophy animal violation. I think that would apply to invalid unit.
The invalid unit part can sometimes be tough to prosecute because who is to say how far the animal traveled until it fell.
The aspect of dragging any conservation organization fundraiser (auction or raffle) into it is nauseating.

Funny you should mention that: It did travel outside of the closed GMU into an open GMU before being field dressed.

It had to travel across a couple sections of land to get to an open GMU boundary.... but it didn't travel to an open GMU under under it's own power.

GMU = 334 you can map it here.

http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/gmu/sear...;search=Ellensburg&orderby=PlaceName

Idaho also raffles off special tags called superhunts. They're good in any hunt in the state but the season in that hunt must be open and all animal size & sex regulations must be followed. If you choose to use it in a spike only hunt, you're restricted to spikes only. Most winners naturally use them in high percentage trophy hunts.

My God you're a idiot JD... you do have issues man!!

The governors tag in Washington gets abused every year. There was the the guy that was caught spotting elk out of a helicopter which landed close to where they had observed a big bull, the tag holder got out of the heli which took off and he and his guide shot the bull.

Then there was the tag holder that was living in another part of the state that had several guides looking for a certain bull and when they found it out in the national forest off private ground. They called him at his residence, he got in his private jet flew up to the closest airport and was then transported to the site where he killed the bull took pictures with everybody and then returned to the airport to fly to New Mexico for another hunt.

There was also the tag holder that paid a certain guide service to make sure that a particular bull was watched all late summer and if any of the draw tag holders got close to finding it the guides would interfere with them so as not to get close enough to it to take it.

Washington Fish and Game is not going to kill their cash bull tag. They are getting anywhere from $40,000 to $70,000 for these tags. All of these above were investigated but was swept under the table so as not to irritate the Governors tag auction. These guys show up in our mountains with their army's and disrupt everyone elses hunt and don't really give a rats rear end because they are only there to kill a monster bull and have their picture taken, then move on to their next hunt in some other state.

I have personally dealt with some of these guys and they believe that they are above the law because they hold "The Governors Tag". Most of the governors tag holders don't usually do any scouting for a bull. The WDFG shoots video of some of the trophy bulls in the state showing how big of trophy's are available then the winner usually hires some big guide service or local scabs that would turn their mother in for J walking to locate the bulls and sit on them until they can get there to kill it.

The sad thing also is the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation wraps their arms around these guys and say how great they are because of the donations they give them. If I sound bitter against these guys I am, because I have watched them ruin hunts for guys that have waited years for the opportunity to hunt a trophy bull. But because they can come in and "Buy" a tag anytime they want to spend the money screw the working guy.

That sounds like the Spider bull that was killed in UT a few years ago. I read somewhere that the guy had over $100K invested before he shot it. It was the world record at the time but I don't know if it still holds it or not.

A five-minute Google search reveals Mr. Reichert to be a rich trophy hunter with an unscrupulous zeal for killing large elk. Big deal.

I heard that same thing but what I was referring to happened in my neck of the woods.

You correct PrimeBeef in that it is no big deal except they usually screw up a hunt that some guy or gal has waited 20 years for and they swoop in and muck it up for them without a care in the world.

So what...and why exactly are you acting like you just caught him f_cking your wife with your cat?

You protest too loud.

So is the Boone & Crockett Club doing anything about removing his records from their big game records book B&C?

Sounds like if the Boone & Crockett Club proactively removed all poachers and scanned for likely illegal submissions better, there would be less incentive to violate the game laws.

Todd also pays big money i.e. Helps fund about three game halks wages each year. The op is a [bleep] jealous [bleep] very common in lib WA. A guy that pays 60k for an elk tag should be able to shoot the elk he wants at pike place market if needed.

Yes, if there is credible evidence the kill doesn't meet their fair chase standards the B&C won't accept the head or will remove it from the record book.

They have done it many times before.

Casey

Yep. I knew a guy whose new world record grizzly was removed because AK game department determined that he had violated regulations that protect streams and riparian habitats.

Seems like it won't.

What's the rationale for not allowing the hunting of branch-antlered bulls in a particular area?

My info is dated by 20 years but when I lived and hunted out there the intent was to grow some bigger elk and they figured that by only taking spike bulls anything a little older would walk.

How's it worked? No clue but I will say WA state has the most f'ed up game and fish regulations of any state I've hunted in. I am damn careful to follow the law and I am sure I violated something every year in WA simply because of their complexity.

So the idea would be to close the area for a period of time, then re-open it after the bulls had grown to maturity and allow some of the animals to be taken?

If that's the rationale, and the bulls had grown up, it seems kind of silly not to let the governor's tag owner hunt there.

I propose it is a conspiracy out of Seattle to increase the supply of sheds. This would lower aphrodisiac costs to Seattle's users.

Can't argue with that logic but as I said, logic and what came out of Olympia seem to be alien concepts to each other. Washington was a great state that has been brought down by a single city. A common theme across this country.

Hardly the kind of stuff that will "reverberate throughout the hunting community."

Flaccid in Seattle. Would start riots!

No, not that I'm aware of.

What has worked in the areas/states is protecting spikes allowing the bulls to become a little bit older and wiser. In Colorado that management scheme increased the average age by roughly two years in a relatively short time.

Casey

So says the poacher's buddy. Yes I do have issues with people who are serial game law violators and I also have issues with those who defend them.

And funny the spider bull should come up, the characters who were involved in this BS had some of Doyle Moss' crew in EBurg scouting this very bull until they were told to knock it off.

Since the guy shot a 400+ bull it seems the restrictions are working.

However, I have no sympathy for someone who hunted where it was illegal.

I don't either, but this is not the kind of thing that will "reverberate throughout the hunting community."

There were plenty of defenders who said he will not be charged, we shall see.

I thought charges had been filed? What are we waiting to see?

The thing that perplexes me is how anyone who calls himself a hunter can think that taking an animal illegally, or with a phalanx of spotters is an accomplishment. I think it's a sad reflection on the "hunter."

Other than that, it's not news.

Yes charges have been filed. We shall see if this reverberates throughout the hunting community.

With attitudes like this (see below) being expressed by participants in these Auction Tag opportunities, it would not surprise me if there were not serious changes made to how these opportunities are managed in the future.


Re: raffle tag bull-poached?
« Reply #887 on: April 21, 2016, 01:18:45 PM »
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My guess is Todd is not worried that much about being prosecuted since he bought the WA eastside elk tag ($75k) at the RMEF auction a couple of nights ago as well as the Pennsylvania auction elk tag.

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The public is not going to have, and should not have, violators rubbing their face in what they have been up to and publicly daring them to do something about it.

You are a whinny jealous [bleep]!!!, what great donations have you made as of late. You Tacoma [bleep] would best just stay in your scum hole and let the men take care of the hunting. Get a life go back to wa hunting forum and talk your chit.
Ps GFY

Fred please.....tell us how you really feel.

And just what are you gonna do about Tods "buddy"??? Go whine over on hunt wa about the Argos, darners, moss' and riecherts, whinning biatch....

If the guy broke the law then he needs to face the music.

Perhaps, Perry mason should tell the whole story, not just what she's heard....

These Obama voters from up north think the own the state and all the elk and deer in it.

The same bunch of [bleep] are trying to get deer and elk baiting banned. They vote out hounds and trapping and you know what fuuuuuuuuuuuck them.

Judman, posting as Cboom, managed a 30 day suspension from Hunt WA subsequent to a meltdown and freakout after Reichert was charged. I would put Reichert in the same category as Sam Argo and time will tell if he is another "Darner" and all of his trophies are to be viewed with the pitty that those of Darner's now are.

What is telling is the passion and emotion that some individuals put into defending game law violaters.

It's not even reverberating throughout this forum.

Yet.

Yes...we have worked out that you are agitating for some reason or other, so what is wrong does he have more than you.

Wrong, again...

If you had taken a deep breath as well as the time to present the facts in a rational and reasoning manner (rather than going full-Kawi in multiple posts), it may have gotten some traction.

Exactly.

I am not terribly concerned that the story is not getting traction right now, it will in due time.

There is an old saying that goes something like this: Discovery is a bitch.

Especially when you discover that no one gives a fig.

you're a broke dik [bleep] that gets a kick out of trying to out a guy that has donated more in the name of big game hunting than your entire life worth.
You sad little bitch hunt wa forum is like a [bleep] waiting for a dick to suck. You better hurry back and try to get a taste.

Real time spotting of elk from a helicopter in 2007, plead guilty to lying to federal authorities in that case. That was in connection w/an Auction Tag hunt.

Charged w/Unlawful Hunting of Big Game in the Second Degree in 2015. This was in connection w/a Raffle Tag hunt.

The guy's a real peach.

WAC 232-12-057

Hunting with aid of aircraft, boats or other vehicles.

(1) It is unlawful to use aircraft to spot, locate or report the location of wildlife for the purpose of hunting; except as authorized by a permit issued by the director.
(2) It is unlawful to hunt wildlife from a vehicle, aircraft, except as authorized by a permit issued by the director, or from a boat propelled by motor unless the motor of such boat has been completely shut off and its progress has ceased.
(3) It is unlawful to use a vehicle, aircraft, or motor-propelled boat for the purpose of pursuing, concentrating, or harassing any wild animal or wild bird.
(4) It is unlawful to hunt big game on the day one was airborne in an aircraft, except on a regularly scheduled commercial airline flight.

You must have seen the whole thing. he was ticketed for not waiting 24 hours the guide had the bull spotted the helicopter just got him to camp and he never waited 24 hr. Yes he broke the law and he payed his fine what is your hard on for him. You sound like a jealous prick. You can't afford to play with the big boys so you slander them on the web in an attempt to make your self think you could to!!! if you had a fckn nickel to your name. You city pukes ruined this state with your bullshit. Go back to hunt wa Forum where they protect the feelings of little bitches like you. A one month suspension would be the funniest fckn thing ever (oh no I can't make fun of whining kccuunts for a whole month!!!!! What will I do?!! ). To funny

And you would think that would have served as a "wake-up call" for him.

And I do believe that if you do your research that the individuals investigating this 2007 violation concluded that the guide had a helicopter pretty much in the air spotting elk every day that they were out hunting. IIRC there were multiple state and federal, misdemeanor and felony charges.


Trophy elk hunter tagged for hiring helicopter, lying

Reichert also hired a helicopter service to spot elk for the hunt, which is unlawful in Washington and many other states, said Michael C. Ormsby, United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Washington.

In December 2007, Reichert killed a trophy elk in the Umatilla National Forest with Wick’s assistance outside the area the Forest Service had authorized Wick to provide outfitter-guiding services.

Reichert later falsely claimed that Wick had provided no professional services during the hunt or been paid any money for his services, Ormsby said.

http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/jul/23/trophy-elk-hunter-tagged-hiring-helicopter-lying/

Spokesman Review

Trophy elk hunter tagged for lying
OUTLAW – Outback Outfitters guide Jon C. Wick, 46, of Summerville, Ore., and Tod L. Reichert, 72, of Salkum, Wash., have pleaded guilty to criminal violations in a 2007 Blue Mountains elk hunt involving Washington’s coveted “Governor’s tag.”

Reichert purchased the any-bull auction tag and hired Wick’s guiding service.

Violations include using a helicopter to spot elk for the hunt, guiding outside the outfitter’s licensed area, and lying to enforcement officers.

Reichert’s sentence includes a $5,000 fine and two years’ probation during which he cannot enter a national forest.


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"using a helicopter to spot elk for the hunt" is not different in degree, it is different in kind than "not waiting 24 hours the guide had the bull spotted the helicopter just got him to camp and he never waited 24 hr"

"Reichert also hired a helicopter service that Wick used to spot elk in aid of the hunt, which is unlawful in Washington State."

http://www.wallowa.com/20121024/outfitter-guide-sentenced

JDHasty
Registered on 09/09/2012
11 posts from 09/09/2012 through 04/02/2014
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Interesting.

Creepy little bromance you have here John, go back to hunt-wa, you have many more supporters over there... HINT

You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

"I have learned two things in 32 years of being a wildlife conservation officer. Violators lie when they get caught and they lie after they are convicted to minimize their role in the violation, and even when the truth comes out of them, it is rarely the whole truth."
John S.

Apologists would have people believe that the helicopter usage was limited to airlifting an aging hunter into camp. Go up a few posts and see for yourself if that is not what is being implied. There is absolutely nothing in the public record that supports such a conclusion.

The evidence strongly supported the case that while the helicopter may have used to transport the hunter to camp, the helicopter was retained as much for the purpose of locating elk as it was for transport and the inconvenient truth is that the helicopter was in fact used for real-time elk spotting.

I nailed the liberal [bleep] puke for sure a wildlife conservation officer is code word for park nark. You will have a lot of crow to eat if Todd is not convicted but a guy at the race track in "eburg " would be a great source. Get a phuucknlifeyou scummy pos.

Are you suggesting that my buddy, who I attended the stock car races in Yakima w/last Friday evening with, who grew up in the Kittitas Valley, who's family is fourth generation in the Kittitas Valley, has been peeing on my leg re: how this whole sorry episode went down?

If you follow how this has played out so far, there is nothing in the public record to support that conclusion and every indication that it is you who has been being dry-shaved by the someone who you trusted as legitimate.

Now, that being said, a small amount of what I have been told has been what was being bragged about about in the local watering holes of eBurg after the "hunt" but before those involved in the "hunt" were told to STFU about it.

Hasty - are related to cumminscowboy per chance?


Before you completely outdrive your headlights, just for shiggles, google Coffin v. United States, 156 U.S. 432 and report your findings on its relevance to your OP.

The drivin' be slow and the headlights be bright.

The man was charged and the gist of my reference to the earlier episode is that a prudent man would have never been allowed himself to be put in the position to have charges filed after getting what amounted to a pass on that one.

Precisely; charged.

Report back when there's a conviction and you can have your day in the sun. Until then, find some shade and give it a rest.

He will get a pass on this one as well. 75,000$ to the RMEF. Not to mention at least 50,000$ a year to fish and game. Not to mention the nearly 1,000,000$ worth of tags he has bought in the last 25 years I think he might know someone or something. And you never mentioned what your great generous donations have been to big game hunting. Let's hear what makes you so holy. Or why you have the right to out a guy that has not been convicted based on hear say at a race track and a bar. You Tacoma guys are a joke of the least funny order.

Hey dumbhasty, wasn't OJ "charged"?? You poor stupid tatle tale sonafabitch.... wow+p

Well now, how's all your denying he was even in GMU 334 workin' out for ya'? How's your assurances that there would be no charges filed been workin' out for ya'? How's all your smash mouth been workin' out for ya'? Not so well, has it?

You were the two dumbasses who called me out when you should have let sleeping dogs lie. The problem you have is that I have my facts straight.

It's Tods fault some stupid dumb sonafabitch from wdfw such as yourself gave him permission to kill it with a musket which th e unit was designated for??? Shut your cockholster dummy.....

I happen to know who you are trying to implicate and guess what? The brother of someone you are calling a "stupid dumb sonafabitch" happens to also be a good friend of mine. In fact he and I were hanging out yesterday.

Keep digging dimwit.

GMU 334 has firearm restrictions south of the canal. It has no ML season. It is closed to branch antler bulls period. The General i.e. modern firearm season is true spike only and the archery season is true spike or antlerless. The Raffle Tag was not valid in that unit period, ever. It spells that out in the Game Regs. The one simple, unambiguous sentence in bold below is the controlling legal authority.


WAC 232-28-283
Big game and wild turkey auction, raffle, and special incentive permits.


(21) SOUTH-CENTRAL WASHINGTON BIG GAME RAFFLE PERMIT
(a) Bag limit: One additional any bull elk, one additional any buck deer, and one California bighorn sheep ram; total harvest not to exceed three animals.
(b) Hunt Area: For elk, any 300 or 500 series GMU EXCEPT those GMUs closed to elk hunting and those GMUs not open to branch antlered bull elk hunting by the fish and wildlife commission. For deer, any 300 or 500 series GMU EXCEPT those GMUs closed to deer hunting by the fish and wildlife commission. For California bighorn sheep, the director is authorized to select areas open for this hunt based on population objectives, harvest objectives, and recent harvest parameters as identified by the department. The selection of hunt areas will be made no later than December 1 for the following year, and will be posted on the department's web site no later than January 1. For bighorn sheep, any bighorn herd located south of U.S. Highway 2 in Chelan County and west of the Columbia River in Kittitas and Yakima counties.
(c) Season dates: September 1 - December 31
(d) Weapon: Any legal weapon.
(e) Number of permit hunters selected: 1

Tell me why this is news again?

Is 334 open to any elk hunting? Any? Archery? Muzzleloader? Anything?

Hey there smart guy: You just made the case that Todd Reichert has no excuse. No one has more experience with these opportunities than Todd. By God, he's bought north of a Million $mackeroos worth of these type of tags over the last quarter century.

I think you might have just got yourself kicked off the defense team.

Ooops looks like it is.... grin

I don't have a dog in this fight but I am getting a little tired of your continual references to how much this guy has donated. Did I miss something new the regulations that if you donate a certain amount then the rules/laws no longer apply to you?

You guys all need to let this rest, the proof will be in the proverbial pudding.

Hunt Area: For elk, any 300 or 500 series GMU EXCEPT those GMUs closed to elk hunting and those GMUs not open to branch antlered bull elk hunting by the fish and wildlife commission.

This is how that statement is interpreted:

Hunt Area: For elk, any 300 or 500 series GMU
EXCEPT those GMUs closed to elk hunting and EXCEPT those GMUs not open to branch antlered bull elk hunting by the fish and wildlife commission.

Not:

Hunt Area: For elk, any 300 or 500 series GMU EXCEPT those GMUs closed to elk hunting as well as not open to branch antlered bull elk hunting.

That little trick has already been tried and has been found wanting by the Courts. "Closed to elk hunting" already makes those areas "not open to branch antlered elk hunting."

At the end of the day that is all they have and so you just have to accept that they will continue to circle back to it. It gets redundant, but just to warn you, they will be back there sooner rather than later.

Looks like 334 is open to bull hunting, albeit muzzleloader and early spike BULL, with permission from wdfw, you don't want me on that jury!! Laffin

How many winning Raffle chances for this South Central Big Game Raffle did Todd Reichert purchase?

He bought one winning ticket and only one winning ticket.

That means he paid $17 for the Raffle chance and that is all he paid for this winning ticket.


The Law doesn't care how many loosing chances he purchased and as a matter of fact he has no more right than would somebody's grandmother who had only spent $17 on WDFW Raffle opportunities in her lifetime and for that $17 had bought a single ticket and he has no more right than her to go outside or beyond what is allowed in for in WAC 232-28-283 Big game and wild turkey auction, raffle, and special incentive permit winners.

Nor do any of his past, present or future contributions factor in. They may factor in if and when it comes time to consider a just penalty, but they do not influence guilt or innocence in this case.

The prosecution would not even need to "burn a peremptory" to excuse the likes of you from any jury pool involving game law violation. You would be tossed for cause.

Lots of grey, or is it gray?? Laffin

What pississ you off more the fact that todd killed the elk or you did not have the chops to become a game warden. just imagine if you would have made the cut and could bust the big bad poacher your self. Tell your wife I said she's welcome.

That bull was a few miles from my house and I have pics of him
On game cams. Moss's crew are dbags

Shame that bull was taken using unethical methods

I know very little about the hunt in question. My response to the op is based on the pugettroplis pukes that have done everything possible to screw up hunting in this state. The liberal BS and laws they have pushed pissmeoff. you can bet a years wages the op voted for obummer, Inslee, goldmark,he has attended at least two gay weddings and hates assault weapons. Its the MO up north and this POS fits the bill to a T. He is the kinda prick that calls the cops if you have music playing past 9 and mows his lawn at 6 in the am.

You guys should get a room.

It is rather interesting how the little brown-noser suckups come out of the woodwork to defend these serial game law violators so long as they are high net income individuals or celebrities.

There a small percentage of regular participants in these Auctions and "flood" game Tag Raffles with mass buys who I refer to the "usual suspects."

It seems that when they are involved, all too often controversy raises it's ugly head. And when they are once again in trouble w/the law - by God here comes a whole contingent of crackpots ready to defend them.

The violation in this case is so obvious that at best extremely poor judgement was used. It is either that or there was a deliberate and systematic effort that set out from the beginning to poach one of these monster bulls that reside in GMU 334 and only rarely do they leave GMU 334.

Those who are defending this act are defending the indefensible.

And nobody gives a sh** about it except you three.

ToddNEWY,



You think some are not above the law? Look at Hillary. In fact almost any Democrat.

And you. You obviously GAS or you would not keep coming here to post how much you don't GAS.

Once again,smokepole re to cock talk....

Not only unethical, totally taken well within a unit that was closed and off limits to that Tag. That makes it poached.