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Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Mule Deer #11207190 05/25/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Mule Deer Not really. Heard it from Ingwe. OK...Im a little slow, Ive been gone, and I just caught this..... Who do I turn in my hurt feelers report to? Last edited by ingwe; 05/25/16. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle ingwe #11207207 05/25/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Its been a couple months since a little bores for big deer thread... Is using a .22 centerfire on deer ethical? or even legal in most places???? I just learned on a cull hunt in Texas that they will kill Oryx.....but the oryx isn't as tough as a tiny bambi deer is it? I haven't read the article so I'm ignorant and used my "big" gun...the .243 on other stuff in Texas. Last edited by ingwe; 05/25/16. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Bugger #11207549 05/25/16
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 943 B blaser_guy Campfire Regular
blaser_guy Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 943	Until I had kids I only thought I knew what was the right cartridge for deer. We started with the 223 in TBBC and used the Remington Managed recoil loads in 270, 308, and 260 and it's not speed that kills. It's the bullet in the right place and these loads shoot the right bullet at the right speed

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Bugger #11207823 05/25/16
Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980 C Castle_Rock Campfire Regular
Castle_Rock Campfire Regular C Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,980	Is this article available on line I did a search and couldn't find a link I have used the 222 and 22/250 on medium sized critters way more than most people will ever do and a 243 and up is just so much more emphatic, and stepping up to the 270 class is a generation ahead again. Anyone who tells you different hasn't done a lot of killing.

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Castle_Rock #11207853 05/25/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	You might have to define 'a lot'...... I haven't seen the larger cartridges be any more emphatic on medium sized game. Course...I'm new at this..... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle ingwe #11207860 05/25/16
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,076 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,076 Banana Belt, Montana	In 2007 I went on a cull hunt in South Africa where one of the professional hunters, Rob Klemp, had a Sako .22-250 that at that point had taken over 12,000 animals--mostly springbok, but some others as well. It was on its 4th barrel, and one day my hunting partner and I were allowed to add to its total. Again, mostly the animals were springbok, but one was a medium-dized kudu bull my partner killed with a heart-shot. Rob still uses the same Sako, but I believe it's on its 6th barrel now, with a few thousand more animals taken. Is that a lot? “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Mule Deer #11207867 05/25/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	I think that qualifies. My fave .223 is only on its third barrel, so Im still learning.... Pats ( Scenarshooter) .220 Swift is on its 9th barrel IIRC so I think its done ' a lot'.... I only have a sample of a couple hundred.... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Bugger #11208318 05/26/16
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,251 raleigh, nc F fats Campfire Regular
fats Campfire Regular F Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,251 raleigh, nc	Is this issue available on the shelf yet?

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Mule Deer #11208369 05/26/16
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14,232 N.E.Wisconsin H Huntz Campfire Outfitter
Huntz Campfire Outfitter H Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 14,232 N.E.Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Mule Deer In 2007 I went on a cull hunt in South Africa where one of the professional hunters, Rob Klemp, had a Sako .22-250 that at that point had taken over 12,000 animals--mostly springbok, but some others as well. It was on its 4th barrel, and one day my hunting partner and I were allowed to add to its total. Again, mostly the animals were springbok, but one was a medium-dized kudu bull my partner killed with a heart-shot. Rob still uses the same Sako, but I believe it's on its 6th barrel now, with a few thousand more animals taken. Is that a lot? What bullet does he use?Is the barrel a factory 1-14" twist?thanks,Huntz Its all right to be white!! Stupidity left unattended will run rampant Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Bugger #11208388 05/26/16
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,567 WY & FL oldman1942 Campfire Tracker
oldman1942 Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,567 WY & FL	Pal in KS kills those big Bucks with ancient 722 222 Rem and 45 gr Barnes. Lungs shots, 100% penetration, usually die within sight. (no long shots)

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Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Huntz #11208391 05/26/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by Huntz Originally Posted by Mule Deer In 2007 I went on a cull hunt in South Africa where one of the professional hunters, Rob Klemp, had a Sako .22-250 that at that point had taken over 12,000 animals--mostly springbok, but some others as well. It was on its 4th barrel, and one day my hunting partner and I were allowed to add to its total. Again, mostly the animals were springbok, but one was a medium-dized kudu bull my partner killed with a heart-shot. Rob still uses the same Sako, but I believe it's on its 6th barrel now, with a few thousand more animals taken. Is that a lot? What bullet does he use?Is the barrel a factory 1-14" twist?thanks,Huntz I think JB said he used Win. 55 grain Power points. Maybe he will be along shortly to correct or confirm... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle #11208392 05/26/16
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ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by popesixtus Pal in KS kills those big Bucks with ancient 722 222 Rem and 45 gr Barnes. Lungs shots, 100% penetration, usually die within sight. (no long shots) .222 45 grain Barnes, 247 yards. "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle ingwe #11208400 05/26/16
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico	Ingwe,popesixtus is larry root. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle elkhunternm #11208403 05/26/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by elkhunternm Ingwe,popesixtus is larry root. Thanks for the heads up... "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle Bugger #11208412 05/26/16
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico E elkhunternm Campfire Oracle
elkhunternm Campfire Oracle E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 96,040 Southern New Mexico	You're welcome. He also posts under the name 1000is. Last edited by elkhunternm; 05/26/16. Life Member SCI Life Member DSC Member New Mexico Shooting Sports Association Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard Ken

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle elkhunternm #11210187 05/27/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	OK...back on topic, not only has my big game rifle shrunk, but it turned funny colors...... What should I do? "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle ingwe #11210208 05/27/16
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... J JSTUART Campfire Ranger
JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	Originally Posted by ingwe What should I do? Get a big black texta and write all over it then dump the lot in the nearest river, be sure to snap a few pictures and post them for the rest of us to marvel over. Added...make certain to show any rust to shew just how badly you have treated it. You are welcome. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle JSTUART #11210215 05/27/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	Originally Posted by JSTUART Originally Posted by ingwe What should I do? Get a big black texta and write all over it then dump the lot in the nearest river, be sure to snap a few pictures and post them for the rest of us to marvel over. Added...make certain to show any rust to shew just how badly you have treated it. You are welcome. Good idea! Then a select few people would revere my posts, even though I denigrate them at every turn! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle ingwe #11210217 05/27/16
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s... J JSTUART Campfire Ranger
JSTUART Campfire Ranger J Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 29,786 Land of milk and honey...for s...	But think of the fun when you repeat it and continually hook the same catch. These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.

Re: The Shrinking Big-Game Rifle JSTUART #11210225 05/27/16
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky ingwe Campfire Oracle
ingwe Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 78,300 Southwestern Montucky	I can't wait! And I can use all my old photos, never needing new ones! "...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe

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