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Poconojack: The "originals" I ordered when they were first offered back in 1982'ish did not come "in original factory shrink wrap". IIRC to get the dealer discount/wholesale pricing I had to order 12 (twelve) of the "standard" editions at one time to obtain (for free), a signed "deluxe" edition. And if memory serves me the "second" edition did come from some sources with shrink wrap. I have to hide my three "original" editions to keep from being "pestered" by Model 70 enthusiasts looking for them! I read/use/refer to one of my "standard" editions and another standard and a deluxe remain as shipped - un-opened and no shrink wrapping. I am not sure exactly what they are worth but I do know its one helluva lot more than they cost me. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
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Yes, the market for old stuff isn't going to be what it is in the future. One example is prices asked for one of the most overpriced classic American shotgun out there which is Winchester Model 21. Like I told Winchester shotgun guys on another forums young buck like me looking for classic shotgun is going to pick something like: W.J. Jeffrey, Tolley, W&C Scott. One can get original 2&3/4" chambers, 1&1/4 oz heavy proof plus nice wood and some scroll for a lot less than butt ugly black actioned Winchester. Personally I would not be left sitting on bunch of classic American stuff. I thought you'd finally crawled off and died Mr EuroTrash... why don't you just sit over on your side of the ocean and keep supporting radical Islam and Communism, and STFU on our side of the ocean? Butthead.... Why this anger? It would be far easier to accept the fact that vintage SxS shotguns made in Birmingham, London or one of the provinces were far superior to anything made at the same time in USA. English fowlers from Thomas Bland, Greener or one one the makers mentioned above will be much better value than Winchester Model 21. When it comes to repeating magazine sporting rifles (ie custom bench made bolt actioned rifle) the best were made in USA. It's kind of funny but one made in "long barn with windows" in small town Michigan USA was better than stuff from best shops of West London. These were bench made by several craftsmen and tested at 200yd range before being shipped to the customer.
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Poconojack: The "originals" I ordered when they were first offered back in 1982'ish did not come "in original factory shrink wrap". IIRC to get the dealer discount/wholesale pricing I had to order 12 (twelve) of the "standard" editions at one time to obtain (for free), a signed "deluxe" edition. And if memory serves me the "second" edition did come from some sources with shrink wrap. I have to hide my three "original" editions to keep from being "pestered" by Model 70 enthusiasts looking for them! I read/use/refer to one of my "standard" editions and another standard and a deluxe remain as shipped - un-opened and no shrink wrapping. I am not sure exactly what they are worth but I do know its one helluva lot more than they cost me. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy VG Guess it was a second edition then. No matter, as I wasn't in the market and just posted as a current market perspective for this thread (it was still on the table at 3:30 in the afternoon). My well worn soft cover has served me well over the years....
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
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I bought a new paperback from Roger Rule last december for a "C" note. If you just want one to read…………..
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Yes, the market for old stuff isn't going to be what it is in the future. One example is prices asked for one of the most overpriced classic American shotgun out there which is Winchester Model 21. Like I told Winchester shotgun guys on another forums young buck like me looking for classic shotgun is going to pick something like: W.J. Jeffrey, Tolley, W&C Scott. One can get original 2&3/4" chambers, 1&1/4 oz heavy proof plus nice wood and some scroll for a lot less than butt ugly black actioned Winchester. Personally I would not be left sitting on bunch of classic American stuff. I thought you'd finally crawled off and died Mr EuroTrash... why don't you just sit over on your side of the ocean and keep supporting radical Islam and Communism, and STFU on our side of the ocean? Butthead.... Are slavs considered Europeans?
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BobinNH et al are correct. Those of us who care about such things are becoming fewer each day. I only have three pre 64s, so I do not consider myself a collector. I have several older Brownings. about fifteen years ago,I took a '63 copy of a Superposed Pigeon Grade twenty to the shop for a new pin. The dealer offered me $6500 to leave it with him. No way! However, today I doubt that it would fetch 4K. A couple of years ago, I bought a minty hand engraved BAR Gd III on GB for a little over $1300. I thought the gun would go for 18-19 perhaps and had submitted an automatic bid capped at 15. GdII s were selling around 11-12.
The new crop of shooter seems to be mostly into plastic, laminate, stainless or flat finished stuff. If you can't pick it up at Academy, Wally World, or Dicks for a song, forget about it.
Luck in disposing of your friend's books. I dispersed an estate for a family member a while back. I was literally years getting the right money for a high grade rifle, but it finally happened.
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