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Not sure which McMillan to order. It will be going on a Rem 700 sa .260 varmint contour 16.5" barrel with 6" can.
I am set on the classic or game scout in adl.
Standard fill with urban spectre or woodland spectre anyone have one of these colors?
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Edge fill olive with black speckles or gap transition.
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Don't go edge. The balance will be way off, with a barrel that heavy + can.
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That's kind of what i was thinking.
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Have you had a varmint contour in a classic before? I know it will fit but not for me at all. I like a little more stock around the barrel than that. Like mentioned already no way on edge fill.
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Never had a classic with a varmint contour. The game warden might be best. I do want to keep it as compact as possible. Any pics of urban spectre kind of leaning that way.
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A Classic forend is a stretch to fit in a RV, a #5 is about the max that looks good.
The GW has a HTG forend, that's only .075" +/- wider, but makes it a great fit for a RV w/o going any beefier, and staying somewhat compact.
A HTG would be a bit more "compact" overall, but most seem to complain about an HTG's comb being too low. They don't bother me at all.
I just happen to have a GW in Urban Spectre that shipped out last Friday........
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aalf when do you expect delivery? I pic would be great! Have had a Rem hunter before not a fan of the Palm swell.
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when do you expect delivery? ETA.....Thursday.
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Did you get an adjustable GW?
As you suggest, the biggest issue I have with the HTG is the low comb. I solved that problem by installing the KMV Loggerhead adjustable hardware on one of mine. Others will get the same mod as time and funds permit.
FWIW, I am considering a XLR chassis which with the right butt stock would offer all the adjustment one should need.
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Did you get an adjustable GW? Nope, just a regular butt. Evidently I hold my head more upright, and am more comfortable with a lower cheek contact, so the HTG is not an issue. Plus, I very seldom shoot prone....too damn hard to get back up....
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A5 is where you wanna be. A VS plugs the landing on a Classic and is no good there,as I've done it. Hint. 19.5" Benchmark 1-7.75" MTU in an A5. It'd be tough not to DBM the 260,so as too eek extry COAL for upper echelon BC's. 20" Mike Rock 1-8" SAAMI 22-250 VS contour in an A5. 26" VS contoured 1-10" PN 300 Super in a heavy filled Classic. 20" 308LTR in a HTG. Never could like the M40A1/HTG and still have too many of the fhuqking things. My best HTG is the one I added a comb and palm swell to,along with a 21" 308Win VSSF chopped spout. The Rem Hunter(top) do nice things in a VS contour and is a better mousetrap than the A3-Sporter in VS(bottom) or GS. I don't EDGE. Prolly shoot more than a coupla more patterns than that,knowing me...but I'll save some for later.(grin) Fixed A5 wearing 1" Decelerator for THE win and I've prolly got a few..............
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A5 is where you wanna be. A-5 checks a lot of boxes, but compact ain't one of them.....grinin'
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If wanting compact, I really like the Remington Varmint pattern. It's perfect for a 22" or shorter barrel. Ergos are fantastic for me, as it is Sako-ish.
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I fondled that Game Hunter at McMillan a month ago, its really nice.
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aalf, Always good to see you Posting. I reckon there's numerous ways to factor Compactitude...though none of mine would incorporate a contour of the sizing slated.(grin) The dimension from butt to crown will vary nil,assuming a like LOP and fixed furniture,when extrapolating one pattern to another. Given the contour hurdle,I'm quick to weigh balance/handling,over any/all "compact" notions. The A5 has no equal there and is certainly THE pick of the litter. Were the query "How do I arrange a compact 16.5" threaded 260?"...the impetus would differ muchly. One could easily arrange a Chassis Bitch and reap the inherent goodliness of AICS DBM footprint sanctity,along with viable means to skew Compactitude,ala the incorporation of an M4-esque butt and/or folder. It might could be akin to this.(grin) In order to arrange this. I'd personally not wish to exceed a #3 contour there,if only because I've driven them greater than................... JP, The Sako Varmint has long been a Good 'Un. Shorter than 22" and in MTU-esque contour. It's betwixt the A5 and Classic(s). While that pattern is a PEACH for flying that much contour(VS and greater),it is assuredly no compact. For handy/dandy,one is farrrrrrrrr better off to drop contour and loose stock mass to boot and then lean heavily on a Classic. 18" Mike Rock 1-7" 223AI in Mag Sporter. Now for svelte...the Montucky STEALS the fhuqking show. I've a few that are prolly even compact.(grin) 18.5" Bart' 270,20" Brux 6BR,21" Mike Rock 223AI,22.25" Brux 6-06,coupla 24" PN 7 Whizzums and an OEM 24" 7 Whizzum. Easy for me to say...I got 'em all.............(grin)
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aalf,Always good to see you Posting. Thanks...... I finally got rid of my last A-5. I'll take a Marksman every day and twice on Sunday. Same front end, but smoothed over there back. Mulling things over, thinkin' a #5 is minimum spec for a can, stickin' with the svelte consideration, I'll ding the bell with ya on the Classic and #5 marriage. Maybe a flute job if you're feeling flush. But then I'd schitcan the 260, punt the DM, and go 47......
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Yeah went big for the can on this one. Could have gotten away with the bart #3 Maybe next one. Tried a chassis and it was meh so I'm going back to a stock. Need a different scope at some point too. [img:left]http:// [/img]
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And here's a lefty my wife had with a 22.5" barrel, which would be your OAL with can installed.
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The Marksman isn't nearly as good as an A5 for felt recoil reduction and it's tough to beat a vertical grip for finite control when MPAJ engagement scenarios rule the day. The Rem Hunter and Sako Varmint slap the Marksman silly,for like reason. Hell...even an Old School A2 is a VERY Bad Bitch,when talking #5 or greater like the others I cited. A5 wearing 1" Decelerator and fixedtitude,is as good as things get. A2's dont suck,wearing a 1" Decelerator and no furniture. A3's ain't horrid,but prefer the '2 and the A5 of course over all things A-Series. The McHale do alotta schit right,but ain't a good 700 fit,unfortunately. Got sidetracked here,chasin' Critters and need to slow my roll and take time to inlet The Blue Angel for a S/A 700 wearin' PT&G Stealth DBM. Never seen anyone configure one so and think it'll arrange nice things for a Play Toy. Was thinking MTU-esque 1-8" no-turn 6BR,but fell into a MDT LSS chassis on accident yesterday and will go #3-ish at no more than 20" in it,for a "heavy" 6BR to compliment the Baby Montucky chambered same. If/when talking #5-ish contours,I can like DBM's quite a bit as they allow nice thangs in target rich environments,as well as a Skookum means of carrying extry ammo quietly. In 223,223AI,270 and 6BR the MDT poly 10rd Herd Clips are VERY nice and easy on brass too,which will spoil a guy. I tend to drive AM steel 5-rounders as a default,but having a herd of Herd Clips ain't a concession. The AICS 10rd poly's convert nicely to 6BR,though an added fastener in the stern,below the casehead,is a good move to keep 'em from spreading/failing at the mould line seam. MDT's are VASTLY superior in that regard. The 6x47 Lapooey wouldn't piss me off,but when talking increased barrel contours/mass...the Herd is callin'.(grin) I'm on a 6x45(270) kick here lately and am groovin' on the logistics,miserly powder appetite and simply sensational Precision. My Itty-Bitty is an 18.5" Bartlein contour dupe wearing less shank,on a Montucky and The Big Nasty is a Benchmark 1-7.75" MTU 19.5",both cited prior. They'll both reliably blow minds,when granted opportunity to stretch the Sig Kilo LRF's legs and correlate POA/POI intersections several zipcodes away. Both have the means to reach well beyond a mile and that fhuqks with heads. Was gunning the wind yesterday on 900yd steel and extrapolating 105'Max,Hornie HPBT's and HighBirds...with the Hornie HPBT reliably stealing the show. That boolit is a SNEAKY Bitch! I shoot a coupla .243" bores,all of which is in High Zoot Custom Rifles and the 270 is really rather sumptin' else. Tough to beat a short barrel and dick nothing ES/SD,conjoined with sinister dope and 40 or so mils of erector travel,with 10 more laying in wait on the windshield. Seen it.................(grin)
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Different tools for different jobs, but one constant remains, 17 1/2" through pole vault: Not all of them, of course, but enough to make my point.....grin. You really need to Dasherize that BR for more drool factor. Takes your wow to new levels w/o losing the BR attributes. The 270 is/was intriguing, but I'm too heavily invested in the Dasher
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Stick: I noticed you like the McHale stock, but it does not get alot of love around the internett.
How you compeare it to the A5?
Does it have a larger grip then the A family? I find the A-3 stock to have a small grip area.
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Aalf,
Any pic of that urban spectre game warden?!? I need to get an order placed.
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Wrangler, Do you already have a barreled action or are you spec'ing a new build?
Stick, Could you post a picture of the flats left on that 300 Super in the classic?
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Not sure which McMillan to order. It will be going on a Rem 700 sa .260 varmint contour 16.5" barrel with 6" can.
I am set on the classic or game scout in adl.
Standard fill with urban spectre or woodland spectre anyone have one of these colors?
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Edge fill olive with black speckles or gap transition. fwiw, Kind of fond of the Sako Varmint, however, they now call it the Remington Varmint and I don't note quite as much palm swell. I'm going to marine-tex that to back to right hopefully... Here is one that just arrived with a BAT VR and Badger Enhanced Bottom waiting on chambering... Shown with an A-5 for comparison. I prefer non-adjustable A-5s by a mile but this one was available. Barrel is a Bartlein Remington Varmint Contour that will finish at 20" plus .600" for the suppressor thread tenon... A-5 is 22" with a contoured thread cap included. It is going to be long with a 9" TBAC Ultra but quiet cannot be overrated in my estimation... Regards, Matt. Regards, Matt.
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fwiw, Do believe the McHale was the McMillan M86 stock. Not really intended for a Remington 700 as it was proprietary action to McMillan who sold it to Harris. Have a close friend who was Command Master Chief of Team 2, as well as a Sniper Instructor, who loved his M86. Rifle shot 2" or 2.5" groups at 600 yards and was THE rifle of that time period... He still has his personal rifle. Rare piece.
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I put my 700 260CDL SF in a Mcmillan Game Scout and I love it. It does not reduce the weight the feal is sweet.
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That urban spectre is a lot grayer than I thought it would be still looks good though. The Rem varmint stocks look good too. I am still undecided and will likely choose whichever I find a good deal on.
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It looks to be 3 shades of gray to my eyes.
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It looks to be 3 shades of gray to my eyes. That's exactly what it is..... However, as with any model McM stock, you can order whatever color combo you want. So you could order the spectre camo pattern with whatever three colors your heart desires. Just remember your first color specified is the dominate color.
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