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I have a chance to buy an older welded aluminum boat very cheap.
It is a 19.6 ft. 8 ft wide beam flat bottom also twin 35 gallon fuel tanks, enclosed bow with access from the deck hatch and in side the cabin. The cabin is enclosed on three sides and open to the stern kind of low and all aluminum. It was a Yukon river boat the cabin looks like a lot of Yukon river boats do. It was used around the minto area, I was told. The trailer works but is well used and rusted,nothing that can't be fixed.
The engine is a 1983 135hp Johnson 2 props and a lower jet drive unit. Runs very good and looks clean under the couling.The age of the engine is the only thing that bothers me.
Should I keep looking or buy it and replace the engine when it is done.
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Stop by the hardware store on the way to the boat seller and buy a garden hose so you can replace those old fuel lines right away.  (I would plan to buy a newer engine ASAP depending on your ability to fund fuel as the price goes back up.) Boats are good; money sitting around idle will only get you in trouble anyway. 
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My purpose for the boat is the Tanana River, Lake Louise and maybe the Copper River and a few others like the Tok River. And PWS around Valdez.
And yes I know a new power supply will be much more friendly to my wallet in fuel cost but a new Honda, Yamaha, Evinrude or Johnson will run $10,000 easy that is not in my budget right now. Plus a new outboard I am guessing will not accept the jet drive from this older engine.
By the way the asking price is $ 2500.00 cheap for a welded 20 ft boat. Thanks for the reply.
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That will be pretty heavy for the Lake Louise/Susitna channel, especially this year. I suspect the water will be way low...
Balancing weight against tougher, thicker bottoms is always a hard call.
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I have never put a boat in at Lake Louise is there no ramp right into the lake.
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They just built a nice ramp not too many years ago... ramp is not the problem though. Going into Susitna from Louise requires you go through a shallow weedy channel after going over a longish stretch of fine sand that can get very shallow some years. Right after getting through the channel weeds get real thick.
You will get through it fine most years but this year is going to be very shallow...
That boat weighs enough that getting it stuck is going to be a problem... Getting it on step in shallow water could also be a problem.
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That long and that wide dealing with shallow waters, you could put a large vehicle engine with reduction on it and put the prop well above the water....
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Well Louise is not high on my list as it is 400 miles round trip from Tok.
rost495 did you mean an I/O type engine and lower unit. I don't understand (put the prop well above the water)
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Airboat. LOL. Its what I run for shallow down here.
But it'll cost you more than the 10K a new motor would and no telling how heavy your boat is already... poly, motor, reduction and prop could run 20K easily.
I'd LOVE to take mine up there, but when we come home in the future for a couple of months in the winter here, to hunt deer/ ducks I'll be using it here.... ah the dilemmas...
We can keep Larry Root and all his idiotic blabber and user names on here, but we can't get Ralph back..... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over....
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By the way the asking price is $ 2500.00 jump on it
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I have a chance to buy an older welded aluminum boat very cheap.
It is a 19.6 ft. 8 ft wide beam flat bottom also twin 35 gallon fuel tanks, enclosed bow with access from the deck hatch and in side the cabin. The cabin is enclosed on three sides and open to the stern kind of low and all aluminum. It was a Yukon river boat the cabin looks like a lot of Yukon river boats do. It was used around the minto area, I was told. The trailer works but is well used and rusted,nothing that can't be fixed.
The engine is a 1983 135hp Johnson 2 props and a lower jet drive unit. Runs very good and looks clean under the couling.The age of the engine is the only thing that bothers me.
Should I keep looking or buy it and replace the engine when it is done.
Thanks for the help
Erich Buy it. Village folk are practical people that know their boats and buy specific ones for a dayum good reason. Dump the Johnson and replace it with a Yamaha 4-stroke in the 75-90-hp range. You don't need a 100+hp engine to push a 20ft flat-bottom to respectable speeds. A 50-60hp would be satisfactory. If you need a little more power to push a heavy load, change the prop to a different pitch. A riverboat without a cabin is just a miserable place to be during long trips.
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Airboat.
I'd LOVE to take mine up there, but when we come home in the future for a couple of months in the winter here, to hunt deer/ ducks I'll be using it here.... ah the dilemmas... You'll be a more popular guy in many places up here sans wingless airplane.
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I have a chance to buy an older welded aluminum boat very cheap.
It is a 19.6 ft. 8 ft wide beam flat bottom also twin 35 gallon fuel tanks, enclosed bow with access from the deck hatch and in side the cabin. The cabin is enclosed on three sides and open to the stern kind of low and all aluminum. It was a Yukon river boat the cabin looks like a lot of Yukon river boats do. It was used around the minto area, I was told. The trailer works but is well used and rusted,nothing that can't be fixed.
The engine is a 1983 135hp Johnson 2 props and a lower jet drive unit. Runs very good and looks clean under the couling.The age of the engine is the only thing that bothers me.
Should I keep looking or buy it and replace the engine when it is done.
Thanks for the help
Erich Buy it. Village folk are practical people that know their boats and buy specific ones for a dayum good reason. Dump the Johnson and replace it with a Yamaha 4-stroke in the 75-90-hp range. You don't need a 100+hp engine to push a 20ft flat-bottom to respectable speeds. A 50-60hp would be satisfactory. If you need a little more power to push a heavy load, change the prop to a different pitch. A riverboat without a cabin is just a miserable place to be during long trips. Sorry, but I doubt it will run at respectable speed with just a 50-60HP motor, especially if running a jet. My much lighter 18' boat with a 75 and jet runs like a raped ape with a properly balanced load... add the weight and wind resistance of the cabin and add 400+ pounds of fuel and the extra drag of an 8' wide wetted surface and I see bad things happening.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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Do NOT buy this! PM me that crooked bastid's phone #..... 
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I don't mind more ponys, you can always throttle back save some in reserve. The boat does have a strange plate at the stern I am not familiar with. The outboard is mounted on it and there is a winch mounted inside the stern that pulls a plate that lifts the motor. It is not like trims to tilt the motor in relation to the boats plane in the water. It just lifts the motor up and I assume gravity lets it back down. Oh and a little kicker plate on the stern for a little 10-25hp for trolling I guess. I might see if he is in a trading mood. I do like the boat a lot.
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las,
you a bad person. I tell you what I will make you a great deal you send me a check and we can share it. You can use it half the year say November-April and I use it the remaining months ( now thats fair) is the check in the mail yet.
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I don't mind more ponys, you can always throttle back save some in reserve. The boat does have a strange plate at the stern I am not familiar with. The outboard is mounted on it and there is a winch mounted inside the stern that pulls a plate that lifts the motor. It is not like trims to tilt the motor in relation to the boats plane in the water. It just lifts the motor up and I assume gravity lets it back down. Oh and a little kicker plate on the stern for a little 10-25hp for trolling I guess. I might see if he is in a trading mood. I do like the boat a lot.
Erich
Thanks for all the help The jet would sit at a different height in use and at different weights and speeds it is much more sensitive to motor height. Sitting deeper in the water allows the motor to be run higher reducing drag.
Mark Begich, Joaquin Jackson, and Heller resistance... Three huge reasons to worry about the NRA.
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las,
you a bad person. I tell you what I will make you a great deal you send me a check and we can share it. You can use it half the year say November-April and I use it the remaining months ( now thats fair) is the check in the mail yet.
Erich Does it come with skis? Should hold a bunch of caribou. No skis - no deal.
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I have a chance to buy an older welded aluminum boat very cheap.
It is a 19.6 ft. 8 ft wide beam flat bottom also twin 35 gallon fuel tanks, enclosed bow with access from the deck hatch and in side the cabin. The cabin is enclosed on three sides and open to the stern kind of low and all aluminum. It was a Yukon river boat the cabin looks like a lot of Yukon river boats do. It was used around the minto area, I was told. The trailer works but is well used and rusted,nothing that can't be fixed.
The engine is a 1983 135hp Johnson 2 props and a lower jet drive unit. Runs very good and looks clean under the couling.The age of the engine is the only thing that bothers me.
Should I keep looking or buy it and replace the engine when it is done.
Thanks for the help
Erich Buy it. Village folk are practical people that know their boats and buy specific ones for a dayum good reason. Dump the Johnson and replace it with a Yamaha 4-stroke in the 75-90-hp range. You don't need a 100+hp engine to push a 20ft flat-bottom to respectable speeds. A 50-60hp would be satisfactory. If you need a little more power to push a heavy load, change the prop to a different pitch. A riverboat without a cabin is just a miserable place to be during long trips. Sorry, but I doubt it will run at respectable speed with just a 50-60HP motor, especially if running a jet. My much lighter 18' boat with a 75 and jet runs like a raped ape with a properly balanced load... add the weight and wind resistance of the cabin and add 400+ pounds of fuel and the extra drag of an 8' wide wetted surface and I see bad things happening. True, if you are going to run a jet, you'll need more hp.All the years I've lived in the bush, I've only seen maybe two jets at most owned by villagers. Everyone runs props. As I said.....practical people.
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