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The Mini 14 ammo thread got me to thinking, I am still convinced the Arsenal AK's remain the best out there but which model and why? Then you have to wonder with an AK's 3-4 MOA accuracy why would not a $600 "AK blaster" be just as good as the Arsenal?

Got me to thinking about Katrina, water up to your neck, mud, no AC, no 120 volt, no TV, no drinking water maybe another AK is not a bad idea! Thoughts?


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I've heard the Century RAS47 AKs with the US made nitrided barrels are among the most accurate right now and even pretty well made. I know the snobs ain't gonna like that but hey, it's a freakin' AK!

Personally, I won't buy any more AKs. They are always a disappointment. The never shoot that great. The best I've had could squeeze out about 1 1/2" groups @ 100 for 5 shots, but after that the barrel got warm and walked just like every other AK I've shot.


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jimmyp, I was thinking the same 10-12 years ago. Picked up custom made to my specs by a popular AK gunnie in AZ out on a hill at that time who will remain nameless (F*e*d*s hassling him too much) on a stamped receiver, 'cause that's exactly what I wanted.

Milled receiver versions are higher quality and possibly longevity, but you pay the price in weight. I wasn't willing to accept the tradeoff. Personal preference.

It does exactly what I bought it for, which is go bang every time I've squeezed the trigger with every Russian steel case ammo I've ever fed it. It will bounce a beer can across the ground at 75 yds, which is what and all I expected it to do. I paid $600 for it and some peripherals, including a laser. It's staying with me.

I picked up an M70AB2 Zastava Yugo underfolder from J&G Sales shortly after. It was the biggest POS and didn't cycle 5 rds in a row. Still got nothing but turds for J&G Sales on that one. They can still kiss my ass. Looked exactly like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/559603558

but not saying this rifle is the same.

If you ever get down this way, you can take mine out for a drive and make up your own mind.

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I like your stock, nice looking weapon. I have never owned a cheap one I had some Bulgarian thing with a milled receiver I bought back in the 90's, more recently a gun from Arsenal. Thanks for the heads up on the Yugo, some say the WASR's are OK for a cheap gun? These days $1200 seems going price for Arsenal guns.


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If I was going milled, an Arsenal is probably the way I'd roll. Yeah, they're not cheap. My favorite LGS sells them at a pretty good clip and one gunnie I'm pretty friendly with makes a decent buck making upgrades to them for a lot of the locals that buy them.

I've got a WASR10 I also picked up about 10 yrs ago for < $300. It's "ok". I keep it around to arm allies, if ever needed. It and a couple full 30 rd mags would go a long way in building a relationship.


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I'd go milled, if I ever bought another. There is noticeable receiver flex with a stamped gun. Century Arms is supposedly now selling a US-made, milled receiver gun, that looks useful.

I have not heard about CMMG's Mutant, if they run reliably or not. An accurate, reliable rifle that uses AK mags so far seems to be unobtainium smirk


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Most folks will tell you there isn't a bit of difference between milled and stamped receivers as far as accuracy is concerned. Now that's assuming you aren't talking about a re-assembled parts kit gun with a thin aftermarket receiver. A stamped AK will also be about a pound lighter.

As far as which to get, I would either get one from Bulgaria or Russia. Yes, they cost a little more.



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I had one of the stamped Inter Ordinance guns, which was a US Made supposedly all-new-parts gun. You could flex the receiver with your fingers.


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
I had one of the stamped Inter Ordinance guns, which was a US Made supposedly all-new-parts gun. You could flex the receiver with your fingers.


You shouldn't be able to do that crazy

I would blame Inter Ordinance and not all stamped receivers though.



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Originally Posted by jimmyp

Got me to thinking about Katrina, water up to your neck, mud, no AC, no 120 volt, no TV, no drinking water maybe another AK is not a bad idea! Thoughts?


Yeah.

Buy an AR.




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RAS 47 is questionable,

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For good honest reviews.

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That is too funny! What a POS.


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Clark I have one or two of the 22 cal guns


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
Clark I have one or two of the 22 cal guns


Well help fight communism and buy another!

SONOFABITCH!




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Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
RAS 47 is questionable,

Look
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For good honest reviews.

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ummm...okay they beat the chit out of it and it kept firing. At least as long as it didn't have gravel in the action smirk

That didn't exactly answer my questions smirk


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The one made in Finland.


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
Originally Posted by ready_on_the_right
RAS 47 is questionable,

Look
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For good honest reviews.

Mike



ummm...okay they beat the chit out of it and it kept firing. At least as long as it didn't have gravel in the action smirk

That didn't exactly answer my questions smirk



If you take time and do some watching he mentions his WASR with 7,000 + rounds through it. Many video's where he reviews and torture tests the various brands so you can see whether or not the cheaper ones hold up.

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Until they come back down in price, I wouldn't buy one. When they were $250-$350 they were good beater rifles. Now the cheap ones are $550+

For $600 you can piece together a decent AR with a chrome lined barrel.


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There's an old saying in photography, that a camera body is a convenient place to mount a fine lens. In this case, I'm looking for a convenient place to insert AK mags...and hang my AK scope mount. smile


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maybe the WASR instead of the $1200 Arsenal that shoots the same....


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