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While I doubt any pro gun legal fund who represent someone who did a homemade fixed magazine modification, I think they would represent someone who purchased a purpose built fixed magazine lower that is "held out" by the manufacturer as being SAFE legal.

The DSI fixed magazine has no magazine release button to worry about. It is a true fixed magazine.

You are correct about the state dodging the issue and all it will take is another nut job to run amuck with ANY semiauto rifle to trigger a Dragnet by ambitious cops and DAs.

If you have a bone stock Ruger 10-22 and put a vertical handgrip/bipod on it your are breaking the law.

ISIS probably is not making their AK-47s "NY legal" !

They have to let you out of jail sometime.

I've read all this, and my conclusion is that I would sell everything I owned and relocate somewhere south of Virginia. Let the liberals have the Northeast. Damned if I'd pay taxes to a state that stole my constitutional rights.

Here is something I found with a google. It maybe ugly, but seems like it would work. If you can legally buy a lower receiver (based on youtube you can) than something like this could be assembled:

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...rain-ordnance-ny-legal-ar-15-bro-pg5-ny/

This is NY legal with a 10 shot detachment magazine.

It maybe possible to modify a pre-owned NY AR with this stock and avoid the registration. If the upper was not NY complaint a replacement upper with smooth threaded barrel could be purchased? I guess? Or swap the barrel. The only banned from ownership 'parts' seem to be the magazines. I imagine you could own the parts, barrel and pistol grip, that you removed to make the gun compliant. The hicap magazines could be given to out of state friends or family. If the law was ever repealed or owner moved the parts could be restored.

And here is a NY dealer selling safe act legal ar's

http://ddsranch.com/ruger-ar-556-5-56mm-new-york-state-safe-act-legal-ar-15-type-rifle/


Seems pretty easy. Pay the expected premium. He is also selling Anderson stripped receivers.

I'd go this route with detachable 10 rnd mags over a top load fixed 10rnd

Another option is a ruger ranch rifle with 10 shot magazine.





This stock is an easy swap, build or unbuild - as your legal situation allows. A top loader is more complex modification. I see flash suppressors are allowed if pined in place.

I would move.

another useless post. If not able help, why folks do that?

I guess, that is one way to boost ones post count.... Working toward "campfire guide"

Some people have jobs and family that come before owing a certain gun. Think about it.

I wouldn't live in NY if you gave me the entire state...

like the state upstate, but have no use for its liberals or its leftist democRAT government with the philosophy that no amount of taxation is 'too much'...

Don't get upset.I was just giving my opinion. I wouldn't live in NY for a number of reasons, not all firearms related. Same goes for CA and many other liberal states.

You can live wherever you wish BUT your post is off topic and contributes nothing to the thread.

DD's rifle is not NY state approved. NO rifle is. DD's pic shows a rifle with a magazine release button, can't have that and even ONE banned feature.

The Thordsen stock has sorta been blessed but nothing in writing.

All an AR owner in NY can do is hedge his/her bets by having a rifle that is manufactured as being compliant, i.e. fixed magazine OR no banned features.

Suggest reading the SAFE act before posting.

Suppose I'll go with the Dark Storm lower as I can use my 4 existing uppers as is.

I would move to...

Just working on that campfire guide status.


Actually I did move from CA when I was 11.

Here is another option. Looks more conventional, sporting conventional not AR conventional. I have not not read the law, so I dont know what the magazine options are now in New York. At least it is not fixed in place.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/foghorn/gun-review-ares-defense-scr/

http://www.aresdefense.com/?page_id=729

From the truth about guns, first link:



If D&D is a valid FFL holder and doing business, selling guns in New York state and claiming the guns are NY LEGAL, .... well that would be good enough for me. As a customer, I wont ever knowingly break any rules, but if a legit dealer, in my home state, has it for sale, I would go for it. That is the whole point of all the dealer license - to keep it all legit.

The ARES is okay with a detach mag as long as it has no other banned features. The one in your pic is a no-no as it has a flash hider. Magazine capacity is 10 rounds max, 5 for hunting.

If you have a detach, you can't have ANY banned features.

If you have a fixed, it's not an assault rifle, under SAFE, so you can have all the features (except a grenade launcher)

It's terrible but far better than Canada, EU or Australia.

A local gun shop sells an AR-15 made by Windham Weaponry that looks like this rifle with a fluted barrel. The local Gander Mountain sells a rifle that's set up exactly like the photo except it has a 24" stainless bull barrel. That rifle is made by Stag.

I guess it all depends on what one feels comfortable with. But I agree that without a detachable magazine then I wouldn't bother with an AR-15.

I also have seen S&W's at the local gun show being sold with "The Spur"



We've got two now that we built from stripped uppers and don't have any of the restrictive features. One with a Thordsen and one with a Spur.

Dan

Some of us just put other thigns first in life. Just the way it is. Not right, not wrong. I"d walk from my job to another state right away, its that important to me. But others have family that may be more important etc.... thats cool.

Wild though how stupid politics can be. its still the same gun... just looks differetn, but thats ok.... the dumbasses we "elect" to make laws are beyond ignorant.