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Don't overlook this nugget.
"Between all 20 of us parents, we spent more than $25,000 on prom..."
WTF.? Yeah...and don't forget the only thing out there is from THOSE parents...this being their "worst nightmare" and all. There it is. I have learned "that Admin hates my kid" is almost always pure BS, especially from doting parents. That clique of girls most likely has a history at that school. But, if ya ain't gonna believe the breathalyzer, why use it at all? Blow a zero and you're off the hook, or should be. The bus should have been searched as a matter of routine policy before it left the school grounds. JMHO, Birdwatcher
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A whole lot to do about nothing!!
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Don't overlook this nugget.
"Between all 20 of us parents, we spent more than $25,000 on prom..."
WTF.? Yeah...and don't forget the only thing out there is from THOSE parents...this being their "worst nightmare" and all. There it is. I have learned "that Admin hates my kid" is almost always pure BS, especially from doting parents. That clique of girls most likely has a history at that school. But, if ya ain't gonna believe the breathalyzer, why use it at all? Blow a zero and you're off the hook, or should be. The bus should have been searched as a matter of routine policy before it left the school grounds. JMHO, Birdwatcher Well, what a surprise that the school .gov shill finds it to be all the kids' fault - for doing nothing wrong - and justifies the whole damned thing; even one ups the BS by calling for a pre-emotive, no-grounds search of a privately chartered bus.
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Well, what a surprise that the school .gov shill finds it to be all the kids' fault - for doing nothing wrong
Ya, that's me alright, public school schill  The bus was hired to haul students to a school event, ergo is equivalent to a school bus, and at something like the prom would be routinely searched, same as a yellow dog. If they didn't have that in place as a matter of policy, its pretty much a given that alcohol would be consumed on a bunch of those buses. IIRC ANY vehicle on school grounds is subject to search, always, they run the drug and gun dogs by mine and every other vehicle on campus regularly. Is it very likely that particular clique of girls had a prior history? Yep, I'd bet the farm. But.... when the breathalyzer came back zero, they should have let 'em walk. JMHO, Birdwatcher
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Well, what a surprise that the school .gov shill finds it to be all the kids' fault - for doing nothing wrong
Ya, that's me alright, public school schill The bus was hired to haul students to a school event, ergo is equivalent to a school bus, and at something like the prom would be routinely searched, same as a yellow dog. If they didn't have that in place as a matter of policy, its pretty much a given that alcohol would be consumed on a bunch of those buses. IIRC ANY vehicle on school grounds is subject to search, always, they run the drug and gun dogs by mine and every other vehicle on campus regularly. Is it very likely that particular clique of girls had a prior history? Yep, I'd bet the farm. But.... when the breathalyzer came back zero, they should have let 'em walk. JMHO, Birdwatcher Still blaming on the kids. How convenient.... Too bad they weren't black or Mexican; you'd be up in arms to defend them.
America needs to understand that our troops are not 'disposable'. Each represents a family; Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Cousins, Uncles, Aunts... Our Citizens are our most valuable treasure; we waste far too many.
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Still blaming on the kids. How convenient.... Really? Where did I blame the kids? Point of fact I'm surprised they don't have EVERYONE blow when they enter the prom if they are gonna have anyone at all blow on just anonymous tips. But yeah, I'd bet money those girls got a history. And backing up a little; excluding the parent IF these kids were still minors and IF the parent really was excluded seems unconscionable, and really stupid on the school's part if that really happened. Too bad they weren't black or Mexican; you'd be up in arms to defend them. Yo Sherlock, 80% of the kids at my public school are Hispanic of Mexican ancestry, gotta be at LEAST that percentage among those that get walked out in cuffs during the school day. Birdwatcher
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I remember Prom night.Over 45 years ago and I still remember my wood shop teacher pulling me aside and asking me"where is it".I didnt tell but he watched me close all night.
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The whole thing is just a show of power. Gotta rattle the citizens once in a while.
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Well, what a surprise that the school .gov shill finds it to be all the kids' fault - for doing nothing wrong
Ya, that's me alright, public school schill The bus was hired to haul students to a school event, ergo is equivalent to a school bus, and at something like the prom would be routinely searched, same as a yellow dog. If they didn't have that in place as a matter of policy, its pretty much a given that alcohol would be consumed on a bunch of those buses. IIRC ANY vehicle on school grounds is subject to search, always, they run the drug and gun dogs by mine and every other vehicle on campus regularly. Is it very likely that particular clique of girls had a prior history? Yep, I'd bet the farm. But.... when the breathalyzer came back zero, they should have let 'em walk. JMHO, Birdwatcher Still blaming on the kids. How convenient.... Too bad they weren't black or Mexican; you'd be up in arms to defend them. You seem to have conveniently deleted the part where Birdy said the girls should have been allowed to walk. Don't be editing the reply at will 
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I will say one of the hardest tightropes to walk is not profiling a kid based upon past behavior, which may have happened here.
This is tough because their past behavior is the best indication of how they will act in any given situation.
Not unusual for a notorious kid either to ACT like they have committed some transgression just to yank your chain, so that they can scream persecution afterwards.
Not sure what the situation was here, but sounds like these kids have had run-ins before, else there would be no history of that Admin "being out to get their kids" as the parents describe.
But.... once again.... if ya ain't gonna believe the breathalyzer why use it at all?
Hard to understand too they would test solely on the basis of anonymous reports. That sounds like an absolute set-up for complaints and legal action.
I'd need to hear both sides.
JMHO,
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I will say one of the hardest tightropes to walk is not profiling a kid based upon past behavior, which may have happened here.
This is tough because their past behavior is the best indication of how they will act in any given situation.
Not unusual for a notorious kid either to ACT like they have committed some transgression just to yank your chain, so that they can scream persecution afterwards.
Not sure what the situation was here, but sounds like these kids have had run-ins before, else there would be no history of that Admin "being out to get their kids" as the parents describe.
But.... once again.... if ya ain't gonna believe the breathalyzer why use it at all?
Hard to understand too they would test solely on the basis of anonymous reports. That sounds like an absolute set-up for complaints and legal action.
I'd need to hear both sides.
JMHO,
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Absolutely spot on!! kwg
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You did get both sides... school admits they got zeros on the breathalizers and kept on after the fact and detained the students. If the school actually had a case they would have lawyered up and been real quiet.
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Well, what a surprise that the school .gov shill finds it to be all the kids' fault - for doing nothing wrong
Ya, that's me alright, public school schill The bus was hired to haul students to a school event, ergo is equivalent to a school bus, and at something like the prom would be routinely searched, same as a yellow dog. If they didn't have that in place as a matter of policy, its pretty much a given that alcohol would be consumed on a bunch of those buses. IIRC ANY vehicle on school grounds is subject to search, always, they run the drug and gun dogs by mine and every other vehicle on campus regularly. Is it very likely that particular clique of girls had a prior history? Yep, I'd bet the farm. But.... when the breathalyzer came back zero, they should have let 'em walk. JMHO, Birdwatcher Nonsense. The vehicle was hired by the parents, not the school, and is the same as a limousine or taxi. Do you think they can search every cab that drops off a kid at school? When asked to bring the bus back for a search, the driver should have called his boss, who then should have told them to suck it. Everybody going in should have been tested, or nobody, just like the DUI checkpoints. Putting your children in a school doesn't mean surrendering your rights. If a child showed signs of intoxication, then the parents should have been called to supervise the process. This is all about some dirty little snitch getting payback for some slight. The school, by falling for the hoax, became complicit. Seems like strange behavior from the folks that are always so concerned with protecting kids from bullying and other attacks.
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Well this blows 10 points plus on the BS meter.
This administrator would be out on the street, if I was on the school board.
Just some more examples of self appointed self righteous bimbo abusing the power her job gives her... Like to see how well she'd be floundering having to hold a job in the real world, instead of the world of academia.
If she's fired, she'll probably be hired for a higher paying job at some leftist NeoNazi liberal college somewhere.
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If the school actually had a case they would have lawyered up and been real quiet. I would think just the opposite.
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The vehicle was hired by the parents, not the school, and is the same as a limousine or taxi. Do you think they can search every cab that drops off a kid at school? When asked to bring the bus back for a search, the driver should have called his boss, who then should have told them to suck it. Sounds like one of them gray areas, they have the right to search a student-operated vehicle PARKED on school property on "reasonable suspicion" which is a lot less stringent on school property. I would imagine they have the right to search any vehicle, including a cab, where consent of the operator is given, as in this case. I would expect in that small town the charter bus company does quite a lot of business with the school and so was inclined to cooperate. Their choice. This is all about some dirty little snitch getting payback for some slight. I've been in this environment for thirty years, and I can't say that's what happened. I feel like we ain't getting the whole story. JMHO, Birdwatcher
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Just some more examples of self appointed self righteous bimbo abusing the power her job gives her... Like to see how well she'd be floundering having to hold a job in the real world, instead of the world of academia.
If she's fired, she'll probably be hired for a higher paying job at some leftist NeoNazi liberal college somewhere. My impression has been that most of those in actual academia would get eaten alive in the front-line trenches of a typical public school. Turns out there's 1,300 students in that high school, presumably the Admin in questions has been there for some time. I'd want feedback from the other 1,294 students and their parents before I'd throw that lady under a bus. JMHO, Birdwatcher
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Just some more examples of self appointed self righteous bimbo abusing the power her job gives her... Like to see how well she'd be floundering having to hold a job in the real world, instead of the world of academia.
If she's fired, she'll probably be hired for a higher paying job at some leftist NeoNazi liberal college somewhere. My impression has been that most of those in actual academia would get eaten alive in the front-line trenches of a typical public school. Turns out there's 1,300 students in that high school, presumably the Admin in questions has been there for some time. I'd want feedback from the other 1,294 students and their parents before I'd throw that lady under a bus. JMHO, Birdwatcher Yet again, it's the KIDS' fault for doing NOTHING WRONG. Any further questions as to what is FUBAR with the public school system?
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If the school actually had a case they would have lawyered up and been real quiet. I would think just the opposite. A lawyer would be telling them to STFU. I suspect they are playing damage control hoping not to bring in lawyers... but what do I know about Texas schools...
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