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I'm sorry my post was confusing but I was referring to the difference between the howa lightning and the hogue howas. Is the only difference between these the stock? Same barreled action? Thanks.
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Same barreled action, trigger and bottom metal.
The stock is a rigid plastic with ergonomics to mimic the Hogue. It's also lighter..
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The main difference is that the receiver has been shaved slightly on both sides and the Bansner stock. Bottom metal is the same. It balances very nicely so it will be a comfortable rifle to carry. I'm anxious to see how it is in the .308 chambering. That's the Alpine. These rifles aren't configured as such.
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Post some actual pics when u get the gun This ^^^
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Got it!
The usual quick and efficient service by Whittaker Guns.
First impressions:
1. It looks like just about any other lower tier Howa 1500s.
2. The black injection molded stock has a "pebble" texture on the pistol grip and forearm. I think that I like the currently Vanguard2 style of stock better, but not enough to offset the $170 difference in price.
3. The barreled action and bottom metal are standard issue Howa 1500, but the 2-stage trigger is new to me.
4. A call to Stocky's to order a B&C stock and a bedding kit is next on my 2-DO list.
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Meanwhile, enjoying the ease of Whittaker's slick layaway system that allows you to log in and make payments without a bunch of hoops. Is the stock like this in shape? Thanks in advance.
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Yes, it looks like that, like a Hogue, but it is hard plastic, not the soft "rubbery" texture of a Hogue.
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They're a Hoque all right, just not overmolded. Double Thanks.
BTW: That's 'Flaves mini.
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Dang, about to spend money I don't have...
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Is the Savage Model 10 Hunter predator in 6.5 creedmoor any good, It has the accu-stock 24 inch fluted barrel.
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Just to clarify, these have the h.a.c.t. trigger?
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Up.
Got mine today. What a bargain! And a slick deal too, absolutely no BS w/Whittaker Guns. Their layaway system is uber!
Hinged alloy floorplate, HACT two stage trigger, three position safety, free-floated, not a high polish but not a damm-blasted finish. All winning features to me. No bases, plenty of heft and the stock is not svelte in the least - yet. All in all, it's totally radical for $343!
Edit: Dude - have you seen my follower? Yah - it's plastic!
Just 9lbs 12oz with a SWFA 6X42, steel bases and rings, and a Booney Packer sling. LOL, sorta.
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That's a screaming deal.
And I have been wanting to try the 6.5...
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Yes, if you want to try the 6.5mm bore, Howa 1500s in 6.5 Creedmoor, short action, and 6.5x55, long action, are currently the least expensive vehicle with which to do so. Plus, Whittaker's $330.00 price is the lowest than I've seen anywhere.
The "problem", it might not be a problem for you, but it is for me, is that the stocks kinda suck and although Howa 1500s are popular, there aren't nearly as many reasonably priced after-market stocks, both new and used, on the market as there are for Remington 700s and Savage 110s.
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All my Howa's (except the mini) wear McMillans.
Dave
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Are you looking for something like a customer target tactical stock from Mcmillan? Or more of something like a Boyds Classic?
Just curious is all.
And as others have mentioned, I'm thinking about a 6.5 creed also.
Was thinking Ruger Predator. How is the accuracy on the Howa's Any reviews anywhere ?
Jeff
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I had a Predator I bought from Dogshooter. Nearly a one holer.
I just decided to stick with 243 and 308 and 223 to simplify my life.
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Was thinking Ruger Predator. How is the accuracy on the Howa's Any reviews anywhere ?
Jeff
At this price I'd stop looking at the Predator. Howa's shoot. Dave
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I had a Boyds Heritage for my first 6.5 Creedmoor, a Vanguard2, but found it to be a bit on the heavy side, so I bought a McM McM Hunter and that made it a whole different rifle.
I have both the Howa 1500 and RAR-Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. I don't like the factory stocks on either rifle and I prefer the Howa's bottom metal to the RAR-P's, but I like the heavier barrel contour of the RAR-P. Neither is perfect, but they are imperfect, for me, in different ways. If restocked, I would give a slight advantage to the Howa because of the magazines/bottom-metal configuration.
I say that, but I have 9 RAR-Ps; 204, 223(x2), 22-250, 243, 6.5C(x2), and 260(x2), so I must like them well enough.
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So, the stock on my 6.5 Creedmoor Howa 1500 "Lightning" weighed dead-on 39 ounces! It's too fat for my tastes - it's a club.
Shaved the stock down pretty drastically this morning, and with a flip-flop pad it'll be sitting at about 31 ounces. Guessing fully-finished it'll be an ounce or so either way, maybe a couple less... Once presentable I'll show it.
Still looking like over 9lbs all-up with the SWFA 6X. Guess I'll throw on some aluminum rings. Not wanting to cut the 22" barrel and not sure where else I can loose ounces for free, although I know where I can loose some pounds LOL. All in all I think not being so dammed cheap and saving up for the Kimber Hunter would have been a better idea for a sporter 6.5 Creedmoor... And still liking that 24" Vanguard...
For comparison the Minis were 36oz to start and went to 27oz without taking nearly as much from the butt AND retaining the original pad... We'll see.
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