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As others said, a natural for the .300 Savage. Might also be really fine for a .30-30 single shot, or a .30-40, depending on the throat.


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I'm going to run the new bullets at near 3200fps out of my 300 Win Mag. Looking for a nice accurate load that doesn't kick too much and shoots flat enough for practical purposes. The hog I hit poorly weighed around 200 pounds so the bullet did get at least 20 inches of penetration. I had heard the early bullets were designed to loose all of the bullet in front of the partition, possibly one of the reasons for the groove.

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The groove was for "pressure relief," the reason it's right over the partition.

The new Partitions are also designed to lose the front core. or at least they're designed to retain a minimum weight when expanded, while losing the front core. Some don't, but the early ones didn't always lose it either.


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I knew the new ones are designed to mostly lose the front core but not turn into a caliber diameter wadcutter it appeared the old style bullet did on exit on that last hog. Possibly going through the thick piece of bone just before exiting wiped away whatever folded back bullet jacket material there was. Some European bullet designs use a groove to facilitate the loss of a section of the front of the bullet.


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The old style Partition jacket (grooved) was a more brittle grain structure and not as malleable as the newer style jackets used on todays Partitions and introduced (IIRC) in the 1970's sometime.

The older style material was more inclined to shear off instead of bending under stress to hold more of a frontal area.

But this is a small point and as John says both are inclined to shed everything forward of the Partition. They may exit "small" but there is generally a train wreck between the holes.

I have seen the 150 work on game from a 30/06 and 300 magnums. I actually found the 165 to do more damage and penetrate better. From a 300 mag at 3200 it is an absolutely devastating killer.

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Originally Posted by BobinNH
The old style Partition jacket (grooved) was a more brittle grain structure and not as malleable as the newer style jackets used on todays Partitions and introduced (IIRC) in the 1970's sometime.

The older style material was more inclined to shear off instead of bending under stress to hold more of a frontal area.

But this is a small point and as John says both are inclined to shed everything forward of the Partition. They may exit "small" but there is generally a train wreck between the holes.

I have seen the 150 work on game from a 30/06 and 300 magnums. I actually found the 165 to do more damage and penetrate better. From a 300 mag at 3200 it is an absolutely devastating killer.


Kinda makes me wanna try it in the 300 Wby. I happen to have a couple kicking around. Can't see an elk shrugging one off.


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Love partitions. With most rifles I use, the only reason for not using them is because Interlocks work great too and they're cheaper.
I usually bring a back up rifle with iron sights for hunting away from home. This year's cow elk hunt I'll be bringing in a second year production carbine '06 700. It is one of few without 1" high tech recoil pad. It will be loaded with 150 grain Nosler Partitions.

I'm old, have bersitus, and arthritis. With a good recoil pad I can shoot big magnums just fine (IMHO). But with that steel butt plate, that 150 grain bullet will be about all MY shoulder can take.

Niche, no - a good bullet for a variety of big game IMO.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by BobinNH
The old style Partition jacket (grooved) was a more brittle grain structure and not as malleable as the newer style jackets used on todays Partitions and introduced (IIRC) in the 1970's sometime.

The older style material was more inclined to shear off instead of bending under stress to hold more of a frontal area.

But this is a small point and as John says both are inclined to shed everything forward of the Partition. They may exit "small" but there is generally a train wreck between the holes.

I have seen the 150 work on game from a 30/06 and 300 magnums. I actually found the 165 to do more damage and penetrate better. From a 300 mag at 3200 it is an absolutely devastating killer.


Kinda makes me wanna try it in the 300 Wby. I happen to have a couple kicking around. Can't see an elk shrugging one off.


A local gun shop owner used the 150 NPT from his 300Wby on a KY elk several years ago. I think it was around 100yds give or take and the rear of the 150 was recovered under the hide after busting the offside shoulder.


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That's pretty good performance. Going out to shoot some reloads in my 300 Win mag presently.


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Originally Posted by Palidun
Normally in my 30 cals I go with 180 grain bullets (Partitions usually) if penetration is a concern. What special property would a 30 grain lighter Partition bring?


A few years ago I had the idea to use this bullet in my '06 at about 2800 fps to shoot does and hogs. My thought was it'd be a light recoiling load and a sure killer without the meat loss I sometimes get with cup and cores when I screw up and hit a shoulder. I never hunted with it, though, as I couldn't find a load that shot worth a hoot in my rifle. But I still like the idea...


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Great for deer, antelope, etc.
Stay with 150's for elk but use ETip or TTSX. No need for heavier bullet.



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These critters were taken with a 150gr Partition @2500fps. Both 1 shot kills!


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Originally Posted by Palidun
Cool pictures!

you got that right!


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I see another issue has been resolved.


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Sounds like the correct niche is the area where the top of the heart and the lungs intersect, or that portion of the spine that can be bisected by lacing one through the top third of the shoulders...

Going to check which pill shoots best of out my new Montana: 150 NPT v. 150 AB v. 155 Scenar then go from there...


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I shoot 150 partition bullets in my 30 06. 59 grains IMR 4350, kills deer and pigs very well

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What chambering?

Just curious.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Waterrat

What chambering?

Just curious.

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Waterrat

What chambering?

Just curious.

Rem 722 in 300 Savage, a family heirloom that has slayed countless brown bear & moose. 40gr of 4895 out of a 20" barrel.


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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